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Hi Peter, How's the article coming along? The Wikipedia Astrology and Science section has gradually tipped toward a decidedly skeptic POV since you and I left that discussion to work on our articles. Despite the recent changes, it is still many times better than when we first descended upon it. I wi...

It depends on what you mean by "research". By comparing Aristotle to Galileo, I think granny may be referring to measurement, which actually does not define research alone, because research includes observation and analysis and not just measurement. For example, Aristotle collected, dissec...

Thanks Tom and Ficina for providing the complete and accurate story. This will teach me not to try to illustrate an idea using such a tiny snippet of a quote. If only I had made up my own example instead! :? Based on Deb's quote from Dennis Elwell: the master dodges answering the young woman hoping ...

It is indeed unfortunate that women were so totally dependent on their husbands in Lily's time. The woman in this case was looking at a deeper issue, and the presenting question that she asked masked a deeper issue, which I suspect Lily perceived because he changed the question. Perhaps the use of h...

I?d like to try to find a social and historical context for this discussion of traditional astrology and the seeming trend towards fatalism. The 1970s, when interest quickly grew in astrology, was a time of civil liberties, when self-actualization was a theme in psychology, and in sociology efforts ...

A bias against science by astrologers may be just as counterproductive as a bias against astrology by scientists. I think there is much common ground to be discovered. While I think it is necessary for astrology to occasionally retreat into the less objective world of myth and enchantment, it is als...

After some further reflection, I?ll try again with this topic. Although Curry introduces potentially useful concepts, they are not developed in a satisfying and useful way. The concepts he uses are drawn more from spirituality and religion rather than science and psychology. Spirituality is more con...

Oh come on! You can't concede as easily as that. I was expecting more. It's just starting to get interesting. :)

Doesn't anyone think I'm stretching things too far?

KennethM

Hi Sungem, However if I'm going to accept (dictionary definition) as a tool, then I can't discard it simply because I don?t like the answer it gives. If the tool (the dictionary definition) doesn't work any more and it's broken (doesn't have any relevant meaning in modern usage), then yes, people di...

Hi Deb, Although Patrick Curry is obviously very learned, his article doesn?t have much substance and it?s very hard to get any traction on whatever ideas he is trying to get across. If I was new to astrology, this is the sort of thing that would tend to make me want to give up understanding astrolo...

Hi Deb, From your description, it seems like the horary techniques you use are a bit different than what I learned, because it seems you are doing some counselling instead of just answering a question. The horary revealed where the real relevance of the issue lay, and that?s one of the reasons why I...

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