25 by Tanit3333 Hahah. No worries, AJ. And whoever ends up right or wrong should take it as a learning experience, and it is just for fun. Quote Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:02 pm
26 by AJ Tanit3333 wrote:Hahah. No worries, AJ. And whoever ends up right or wrong should take it as a learning experience, and it is just for fun. Yes, no worries. It is fun, isn't it? Cheers. Quote Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:57 pm
27 by Serene Hi guys! So here comes the Santa with his gift for horary enthusiasts this Christmas - everyone was right in concluding that the chart is most obviously pointing towards no final move by the querent! And , Tanit almost all the details you gave out with the exception of the last part about the break up in querent's break up are spot on! I will tell the story in detail tomorrow. Merry Christmas to all of you Quote Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:47 pm
28 by Vyri Forum Moon square Mars in the 1st, Marc Edmund Jones = no. Should of known am learning to respect Mars especially in the 1st with Moon in her castle testifying his worth. Close to dignified Saturn is even more prestigious, volatile in Capricorn. Means business about steadfast property consideration. Hindsight doesn't count though. Vyri "Omnia Numeris Sita Sunt" = Latin for; "Everything is veiled in number" "Ye Stars which are the glory of Heaven!" If in your bright leaves we would read the fate of men and empires, "tis to be forgiven"- Lord Byron Quote Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:26 pm
29 by Tanit3333 A hard aspect to a malefic does not always mean a no answer. It depends on the question and what it signifies. In most cases, a simple yes/no answer with an applying malefic influence and weak significators would suggest a no, as I said, but that is also not necessarily the case if someone wants the answer to be no. What if someone asks if they have cancer and they were signified this way? Would an applying aspect to a malefic mean no? Probably not. In any case, my reasoning had more so to do with the placement of planets at critical degres/changing signs and a new moon more so than applying aspect. Perhaps these cuspy influences had more to do with the querent changing their mind/lack of certainty, along with the retro movement. As I said, the chart was not straight forward and if we assume all cases like this are no then we might miss something. The querent is obviously not very happy in the chart and I think that is a bigger issue than on when they might move, though, as I mentioned. Quote Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:00 pm
30 by Serene Hi all, so here are the details surrounding this horary. I will be quoting statements from Tanit's reading as much of it was relevant and relating to what transpired and then adding the additional details from the actual events. A retrograde querent is likely to change their mind or waiver back and forth on an issue, and the 12th deals with things like feeling trapped or having anxiety of the mind This is exactly what had been going on. Sometimes Mars in the first can show anger or irritation influencing the question, such as something at their complex causing them to want to leave..... The fact that the Moon applies out of sign to Mars suggests this could be something that leads to leaving, and the orb is pretty close, but applications outside of sign barriers typically occur after some sort of change in the situation, which a new moon also emphasizes, such as something new that comes up, something that is the straw that breaks the camel's back perhaps, and Mars is also in a new sign, suggesting again that there is a change in the situation that influences the final outcome. Yes, Mars in the 1st may be showing her irritation over the situation. Overall, I think the chart suggests some difficulty in the current situation and that moving would probably be in their best interest (although the 7th ruler, ruler of a potential new location isn't fantastic either) which I think is better to answer than whether or not they will move - and a question like this suggests they have no choice in the matter, which as someone with free will, they should. Yes you are correct, it doesnt make sense but she actually did feel like she has little say in this matter because in past she had tried several times and eventually did not succeed for one reason or another. I normally would ask the person what they are trying to gain from such a question - will I move versus if I move will it be better, etc. doesn't seem like a great question. Kind regards S Last edited by Serene on Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:13 am, edited 1 time in total. Quote Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:38 am
31 by Tanit3333 Thanks for the thorough feedback, Serene! That is always very helpful. Thanks for sharing your chart with us also. These exercises are always a good way for us to practice. Quote Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:43 am