In this type of horary, again, the Moon does not necessarily represent the querent but is observed by what it aspects to represent the quesited's behavior, so I would not assume there is prohibition. You would want to see the Moon with the querent, not Mars. However, if you asked the question with this frame of reference, it is possible the chart is showing that for you to interpret that way (the Moon as your significator), meaning that the Moon could potentially representing you stopping them from having an affair. I personally believe a horary is framed for the astrologer to read and interpret so it is ultimately your choice of what significators to use and how to interpret it. if I use Lilly/Bonatti's method in this chart, it is the exact opposite of the first chart, basically. Both the Moon and the quesited with Mars is a sign of cheating. This is the problem with repeat questions and charts you feel confused about and cannot interpret. Also, Wade Caves told me that Mars-Jupiter aspects in relationship horaries is a strong sign of a sexual attraction. A conjunction, I would assume, is significantly stronger in that regard and could show a physical relationship. It would suggest that she would be an initiator.

If these charts leave you feeling unresolved about the matter, I would drop them both and not try to interpret either one of them. Horary is meant to help you, not make you more confused with contradictory answers. I hope that your partner is honest with you either way and that you can be able to trust him.

Hi Tanit thanks for looking again. Appreciate a lot. ???

I dont blindly rely on horary for serious matters of life yet it helps me keep my eyes open to reality. This horary is more than 2 years old, so perhaps things have changed by now and he is no longer interested but she is?

Interesting that you believe horaries are framed for the astrologer interpreting them. I have often wondered about this especially because receptions became so radically different after people started using Frawley

I was actually expecting the response you gave so it is not totally surprising. In my own horaries when two planets are applying by conjunction with reception like this , i have seen prohibition does not save the chart. I am very big on honesty in a relationship with my Venus in Sagittarius and it is not the sharing of love or physical intimacy that would hurt so much as much as lies

Tanit just one thing i wished to confirm, do you think the turned 9th house signification can have anything to do here? Mars being his turned 9th lord and the fact that he was travelling for higher educational purposes or their staying together at his apartment - can the Jupiter Mars conjunction show that?


Edited to add
By the way, i noticed now my actual wording of the question for this last chart- "Does he have any physical relationship with her". So your reference to Jup- Mars conjunction wrt sexual attraction and Wade's comment seems relevant.

The significators conjunct in that chart are cadent though, so it could be via feelings rather than action, perhaps. Normally I attribute cadent houses to inaction or perhaps delayed action. It could be as you said where it represents something down the road, especially since the second chart shows an out of sign aspect with Mars that would align with that. It is possible that the strong Cancer Moon prohibits the conjunction in the first chart but it does still suggest a strong attraction, as you said. It would be odd for the chart that shows the opp between you to be incorrect considering it represents well the argument you had and his response to you confronting him. It seems like a rooted chart.

Tanit3333 wrote: The significators conjunct in that chart are cadent though, so it could be via feelings rather than action perhaps. Normally I attribute cadent houses to inaction or perhaps delayed action. It could be as you said where it represents something down the road, especially since the second chart shows an out of sign aspect with Mars that would align with that. It is possible that the strong Cancer Moon prohibits the conjunction in the first chart but it does still suggest a strong attraction, as you said. It would be odd for the chart that shows the opp between you to be incorrect considering it represents well the argument you had and his response to you confronting him. It seems like a rooted chart.

Tanit I think you just nailed it!!! Quite fascinating !!!