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linchi wrote:
Harmonic 256 ,512 and other higher harmonics are an idea of mine that I claimed in 2015 with my work "Microastrology".
linchi, I would be most interested in reading/studying your work on "Microastrology." Is this work available anywhere online. Thanks

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Therese wrote:
I think it's very possible that Biden will win the vote count, but that somehow Trump will continue as U.S. president. This is why I'm only looking at the inauguration period. So Biden could "win" the election in November but some kind of dramatic change can favor Trump for the inauguration. This might play havoc with predictions if they are based on the November date.
Jim Eshelman in the piece below goes in the opposite direction on the inauguration. He is not the first to reference the lunar return Biden has on inauguration day. Something I still need to check out myself from a tropical angle.

After some hectoring by me Jim Eshelman (Sidereal, Fagan-Allan ayanamsa) made some very interesting comments on a Facebook group today. I am not sure everyone will be able to access the FB link here so I am copying them in here in full.
I was asked elsewhere if I was going to publish an election forecast. Mainly, I just plan to do my regular monthly U.S. forecast (with a Trump and Biden page on each) - I'm not sure I've exhausted everything I should look at for an outright forecast. Nonetheless, I've gathered a lot of astrological clues that I'm willing to collate in one place.

First, both Biden and Trump have bizarrely unhelpful lunar returns from October through the end of the year. (Joe is every kind of Neptune he can find by transit, progression, direction, and return chart; Trump is mixed and unclear..) Some of this might be more travel than I thought they'd undertake - that their lunar returns don't actually set up where I expect them to be.
For Election Day itself, Trump looks SLIGHTLY better, but I don't think Election Day is the target date: People are voting from at least mid-October on, and we likely won't have an answer at least for a few days and maybe for three or four weeks, so the timing is weird. OTOH, for Inauguration Day, Biden looks a little better.

Trump has a lunar return exactly the day the Electoral College votes that is one of the most powerful charts I've ever seen - but I can't tell if it's powerful good or bad. (BOTH Jupiter and Saturn are within minutes of Ascendant, conjunct, with Pluto nearby. By traditional means of interpreting, this is a defeat marker, but I'm not willing to rely on that.) A lunar ingress the day Congress counts the ballots is unusual in that it's a Liblunar - normally a one-week chart - that lasts three weeks this tine and seems to me a "breath of fresh air" or "new agenda" chart even though amidst difficult, terrible conditions. Biden has a demi-lunar return the same day that is splendid - Jupiter and Uranus closely angular.,

Which brings us to the inauguration: All of a sudden, on January 20, 2021, Joe Biden's new Sidereal Lunar Return, though physically threatening, looks like he's the absolute center of attention in Washington, DC. Kamala Harris, who lives in DC and probably will be at the inauguration as a Senator whichever way the vote goes, has a lunar return the same night (their Moons are conjunct) showing it's one of the happiest days of her life. Harris also has progressed Sun 0°05' from her natal Descendant and a 0°04' progressed Moon-Jupiter conjunction - her chart looks astonishingly good (victorious and reigning) for Inauguration Day, though Joe remains very much a centerpiece - it's not like he's no longer there, as some have suggested

So... as far as I've gone... I think the Democratic ticket wins. I can't find a bloody thing I consider reliable through the end of 2020, but January 6 starts to perk up and January 20 shows Harris at the peak of ambition, success, and attainment and Biden as a centerpiece of all Washington's attention.
PS - I forgot to add: January 20 is the exact day Trump has is final 0°00' transiting Neptune square natal Uranus AND the exact day transiting Pluto opposes his Saturn 0°00'. It does seem that reality cuts the bottom out from under his world
Mark
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Stefan wrote:
Regarding Joe Bidens events, astrodienst have a good listing of events...
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Biden,_Joe
Thank you, Stefan...a great list to work with. I printed it and will check dates before I post my inaugural comments on the sidereal forum. That draft is mostly finished now.

Nice to see Jim Eshelman's prediction here. Thanks, Mark! Finally...we're getting to see some communication between the die-hard disciples of Cyril Fagan (Jim and Steve and unique_astrology has been here awhile) who use the Fagan-Allen (S.V.P.) ayanamsa and the broader sidereal community. This little Fagan group has mainly remained isolated for many years.
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http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm

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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:11 pm Post subject: Speculative for Joe Biden

For planets to be considered for interpretation they must be in aspect to one of the base chart angles or to other planets that are. Interpretation is then ceded to the observers definitions for each that is displayed. I do not adhere to the common belief that aspects are to be considered positive or negative but that the nature of the planets making the aspect should color that determination. Thus a square from Jupiter could be considered positive while a trine from Saturn could be considered deleterious.

As his stated birth time of 8:30 am, EWT, is from memory I wanted to see if my progressed lunar return technique might provide a reasonable chart for or against his possible inauguration on January 20, 2021.

Indeed using any birth time from 8:22 am through 8:27 am provides such a chart (PAL - Progressed Anlunar). It is positive for Biden and would reflect well when compared to Kamala Harris' progressed natal chart for that date, time, and place. The chart has his natal Sun and Venus on it's MC trined by his natal Jupiter.

Biden Wins

Here is that progressed lunar return produced by using one of those speculative times (8:22 am). I made a mistake and labeled the PAL Jupiter as a transit. The PAL Asc is at 235°29' of right ascension. PAL Jupiter irises at 234°49'. Transit Jupiter at noon will rise at 235°59' of right ascension - within 1/2 a degree from being exactly conjoined to it.

The MC difference between the Capitol Building and the White House is only 2 arcminutes.

Biden's natal Jupiter is at 117°07'; it is opposed by inaugural Pluto at 297°01'.

Image
Speculums for planets in above charts:

BIDEN CB 20 PAL - Natal Chart
Jan 14 2021, 8:13:07 am, EST +5:00
Capitol Building Dist of Columbia

****Rise******Upper
Jup 234°49'
Asc 235°30'
MC*********235°30'

BIDEN CB - Natal Relocated
Nov 20 1942, 8:22 am, EWT +4:00
Capitol Building Dist of Columbia

*******Upper
Sun****235°17'
Ven****236°24'
Jup****117°07' (+120° = 237°07')

Transits Jan 20 2021 - Event Chart
Jan 20 2021, 12:00 pm, EST +5:00
Capitol Building Dist of Columbia

******Rise
Jup***235°58'

*** END REPORT ***

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unique_astrology wrote:
As his stated birth time of 8:30 am, EWT, is from memory I wanted to see if my progressed lunar return technique might provide a reasonable chart for or against his possible inauguration on January 20, 2021.
I think a very important point is being made here: The emphasis is on a technique being tested. I don't like to see those who correctly make a prediction being made into a "cult of winning personalities." We're all really testing various techniques, and when the election is over I'd like to see a list of winning techniques headlined rather than personalities highlighted. Of course astrologers can be listed with the techniques, but it's the techniques they used that are the stars.
http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm

Not being tested

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Therese Hamilton wrote:
I think a very important point is being made here: The emphasis is on a technique being tested.
Not true. Being applied, not tested. When the 8:30 am time produced appropriate symbolism off by about 2 degrees from the angles, that told me to make a time correction to bring them in line for a chart that would match the indications for the ticket's other member, Kamala Harris whose charts were done with a recorded birth time.

Therese, you know because of my postings on Judy Johns' old Political Astrology group on Yahoo that the testing was done 45 years ago and that in the following years it has been applied thousands of times. Stop trying to put me down with false statements about my technique.

For your own reasons you have been against my technique since I first introduced it. It has now been almost 2 decades. If you don't like me or it, just ignore my posts.
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Therese Hamilton wrote:
I don't like to see those who correctly make a prediction being made into a "cult of winning personalities." We're all really testing various techniques, and when the election is over I'd like to see a list of winning techniques headlined rather than personalities highlighted. Of course astrologers can be listed with the techniques, but it's the techniques they used that are the stars.
I have to say the comments by Unique_Astrology (Bob Newlander) seemed quite modest to me. You really should check out some of the hubristic comments by some other astrologers who correctly predicted the 2016 election!

I know your emphasis has always been an empirical one with a focus on constantly testing out techniques. However, that approach is not for everyone. I see western traditionalists and Jytoshis simply falling back on classical techniques they believe work. Equally, many astrologers have tested out their own techniques and are satified about their accuracy.

I would really like to avoid disagreements over techniques here. You and Bob are both seniors in the astrological community. Its clear you haven't agreed with each other for literally decades so I suggest you simply give each other a wide berth rather than engaging in further commentary here.

Thank you

Mark Cullen
Moderator
Skyscript Mundane + Financial Astrology Forum
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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Hello Bob,

I want to add to your methods to my list of predictions.

How would you typify your astrological techniques to reach a prediction briefly?

Transits and Secondary progressions (mean Quotidian) . Anything else you feel needs added?

Also zodiac wise Fagan-Allan?

Thanks

Mark
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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I hope the following is what you need Mark. If not, just ask for what more you would like.

Location: USA
Tools: 1. Precession corrected Tropical zodiac (for most) or Fagan-Allen Sidereal 2. Current solar or demi-solar return before event 3. Current lunar or demi-lunar return from it before event 4. Event data 5. Secondary Progression of birth chart (Q2 Mean Quotidian angles) 6. Lunar return MC is progressed by the arc of the Moon from return's beginning to the event time. 7. Might be of interest - natal chart, eclipse charts from previous year by date from event.

FYI to all - All horoscope chart angles are computed in right ascension. All points in the foregoing charts should be expressed in their right ascension positions also. That would be done by your software.
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