Aries Point

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In Uranian astrology, the vernal point represents all the points of the cardinal cross.
This cross is the most important mundane structure for the annual life cycle on earth.
The axis of solstices (Cancer-Capricorn) is defined as the 'Earth axis'. The axis of equinoxes (Aries-Libra) is defined as the 'Earth horizon'.
(Rules for Planetary Pictures, p. 30)
Also called the Aries Point, it represents our identity in the world. The many people we superficially know and have dealings with, without making the acquaintance.
I refer to this point as 'the news of the day', what everybody is talking about.
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Most major events on Earth will happen and can be investigated by looking at
1) The Aries Point (the general framework)
2) The Sun (the day, the body, the living body, a physical object, what is visible)
3) The MC (the minute, the moment)
4) The AS (the environment)
5) The Moon (the people, changes)


Some planets will cross the Aries Point and stay there for a longer time.
What needs to be investigated are
1) the planets forming a hard aspect to the Aries Point
2) the midpoints to the Aries Point and stationing.
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Let's try to deconstruct the aspects and midpoints to the Aries Point to get a general feeling of what is happening in the world right now.

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Currently, we have
Poseidon sesqui-quadrate the Aries Point

Poseidon is the Artificial Intelligence and the growing influence it has in our life.
In the midpoint SA/PL = separation in educational matters, in matters of faith, of concept of life.
Neptune near the Aries Point and sesqui-quadrate Poseidon
Fake news, false ideas and views, misrepresentation, fanaticism.

Also making a hard aspect to the Aries Point
1) Saturn/Pluto
Hindered or slow development. Transformation through separation which is what is happening in Israel right now. Destruction of the status quo.
2) Admetos/Eris
Reduction, greatest hindrance. Admetos is a red light, a time to stop. And Eris is a like minded warrior. Admetos is also stagnation with the war in Ukraine. I have the image of the short film movie winner of an Oscar in 1952, The Neighbours by Norman McLaren. The story is a parable about two people who come to blows over the possession of a flower.

These are some considerations in mundane matters, the Aries Point, planet and midpoints making an aspect to it.

In the Middle Age, there was a famous palindrome
' In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni'
Which can be translated as 'We go around in circles in the night and the fire consumes us.'
The Latin sentence can be read identically, starting from the beginning or the end. Evoking the round it is talking about.
Blessings!

Re: Aries Point

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Ouranos wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:28 pm
I refer to this point as 'the news of the day', what everybody is talking about.
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Currently, we have
Poseidon sesqui-quadrate the Aries Point

Poseidon is the Artificial Intelligence and the growing influence it has in our life.
In the midpoint SA/PL = separation in educational matters, in matters of faith, of concept of life.
Neptune near the Aries Point and sesqui-quadrate Poseidon
Fake news, false ideas and views, misrepresentation, fanaticism.

Also making a hard aspect to the Aries Point
1) Saturn/Pluto
Hindered or slow development. Transformation through separation which is what is happening in Israel right now. Destruction of the status quo.
2) Admetos/Eris
Reduction, greatest hindrance. Admetos is a red light, a time to stop. And Eris is a like minded warrior. Admetos is also stagnation with the war in Ukraine. I have the image of the short film movie winner of an Oscar in 1952, The Neighbours by Norman McLaren. The story is a parable about two people who come to blows over the possession of a flower.

These are some considerations in mundane matters, the Aries Point, planet and midpoints making an aspect to it.

In the Middle Age, there was a famous palindrome
' In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni'
Which can be translated as 'We go around in circles in the night and the fire consumes us.'
The Latin sentence can be read identically, starting from the beginning or the end. Evoking the round it is talking about.

One you may have overlooked is the Sun-Mars-Vulcanos on the Aries Point for the next few days.

As you know Vulcanus is associated with....yes you guessed

....https://news.sky.com/video/iceland-dese ... n-13010426

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Halfsums For Iceland on SUN/MARS conj

ARIES POINT

MO/AD
MC/AD
PL/AD
SUN/VU
MARS/VU

21 NOV - ARIES PT.

ME/KR
MA/VU
PL/AD
MC/MA
ME/HA
MC/SU


22 Nov - ARIES PT.

MC/MA
ME/HA
MC/SU
PL/AD
MA/VU
SU/PL

The last two points seem in worse condition than either today or on the days after 22-23 Nov.

Sun-Pluto midpoint seems to be the most redolent of an actual 'change of environment' expected.

Any thoughts?


SUN-MARS SYNOD chart is at the front and centre of this situation - Moon-Pluto opp MC, resolved by Mars on the 'Point of Thales'. One can almost feel the plutonic rumbling.
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Re: Aries Point

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Thank you Greg!

I only gave the slower transits to the Aries Point which provides a background for the faster moving planets midpoints.
Of course, to incorporate the faster points is great if you want to focus on the specific instead of the general.
What I notice in the days you mention is the midpoint
Aries Point = Mars/Vulcanus which translates as 'mighty and unleashed activity, great power, energetic forces in action, efforts in the field of climate, because of extremes heat or cold.'
And I always look at it this way - From general to specific
With Poseidon in the picture (sesqui-quadrate the Aries Point), some of the myths associated to this God
Poseidon reigns supreme over the sea, and can also cause earthquakes (the Greeks believed that it was Poseidon who lifted the earth on his shoulders, as the Titan Atlas supported the sky). His nickname is 'Enesidaon' (earth-shaker) which can angrily strikes the ground with his trident.
The Greeks created Poseidon’s mythology first, so a lot of myths about Neptune are based on stories about Poseidon. Neptune first appeared in Roman mythology in 4 BCE. He is first mentioned over 1,000 years after Poseidon.
Poseidon is a more powerful and important god than Neptune because Greek culture was based around seafaring, while Rome pursued land-based conquests.

Keep posting your findings,
Ouranos
Blessings!

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Thanks, very informative. I've only been studying Uranian astrology for about a year and had no idea it was so interesting and very different in many ways. Yes Mars-Volcanus is the stand out midpoint here but only has a two day influence at its most intense. Also Pluto-Admetos still there and fits your criteria of being long lasting. I think I was also looking for a 'trigger' event and Mars fits the bill.

And here's another example that started at a similar timeline..

Watch the birth of a new ISLAND from an underwater volcanic eruption

Local news aircraft first spotted the signs of an eruption at the southern end of the Izu-Ogasawara Trench, 750 miles (1,200km) south of Tokyo, on October 30.
Experts say that the island, which is around 330ft in diameter, is likely to become permanent or even merge with nearby Iwo Jima if the eruption continues.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/ar ... Japan.html


And another eruption today.....so the midpoint is working (just not in Iceland),
Eruption of Papua New Guinea volcano subsides though thick ash is billowing 3 miles into the sky

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reute ... rupts.html


I'm not a Volcanologist but wouldn't you say this was quite an active period?

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Let's have a quick look at the period 2000-2010
Kronos entered Cancer Sept 4th 2001 and went back and forth over the Vernal Point for about 4 years.
The Rulebook says of Aries Point/Kronos = Major events on Earth
Kronos represents the authorities, those who rule the World, states, governments.

And what better representation than George W. Bush who occupied this decade. When he was elected in 2000 he had
- Solar Arc Aries Point = natal Kronos
- Solar Arc Kronos = natal Sun

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The terrorist attack on the World Trade Center Sept 11th, 2001 shows a T-Square between Mars/AriesPoint/Kronos-NN-Moon)
Mars/Kronos talks about an autocratic action and the U.S.A government who was under fire and who stood up to the challenge. The famous 'Whether you are with us or against us'
NN says that many people were involved. Of the Moon/Kronos = alliances of people and nations.
Faith McInerney says that having a planet at the Vernal Point is equivalent to a planet being angular.
So anything around 0 Cardinal and 15 Fixed is tied to the Vernal Point.
Madonna has Natal Mars=Aries Point (Mars is 15 Taurus 37’)
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The SUN (the day)
In the midpoint Saturn/Hades = severe damage, sadness, casualties, sad parting.

The MOON (the hour)
Moon/Kronos/North Node = alliances of people and nations.

The MC (the minute)
Many personal points involving Eris, the warrior.
MC=PL/AD Radical transformation, to return to the basic origin (the 2 Towers)

The AS (the environment)
NE/HA = Lack of lucidity, decay, lack of air and water
ZE/VU = All forces are directed to one point. Great wars, extraordinary eruptions or explosions.

In the next post, I will explore what's in store between 2020-2030 dominated by Neptune and Poseidon at the Aries Point.
Blessings!

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Pr.Diana - Aries Point

Zeus-Admetos (To face new problems in general, a new beginning, new
environment, new circumstances).

Amazing. I keep choosing random subjects to research and it hasn't failed to impress even once so far. One familiar example was Princess Diana with Zeus-Admetos on the Aries Point. I couldn't really figure it out on first glance but then a few mins later it came to me with Zeus = warfare & ammunition whilst Admetos ending or limiting/reducing thus pointing to her global influence on the efforts to ban landmines

Sedna is involved in 3 midpoints on the Aries Point of the day she died in the car crash in Paris. Sedna is conjunct Admetos exactly in 4th house (end of life) in her natal chart and square Saturn in her 1st house. No wonder it figures so prominently on her final infamous day here.
''The story of Sedna for me is a woven reminder of compassion and resilience towards ourselves and others, especially after a series of traumatic events. When we feel as if we are being cut off from our roots, our family, our sense of community, its important to acknowledge our power within''
Pr.Diana had the HRH taken from her following her divorce from the-then Prince Charles in 1996, just a year before her tragic death thus cutting any happy relations to the rest of the Royal Family.

https://teaandbannock.com/2018/09/16/th ... r%20within.


Nataly on her marriage SUN was at 29 cap and conjunct SATURN at 29 cap, setting off the important natal SEDNA-ADMETOS square SATURN in Diana's natal chart. We now know the inner doubts casting a shadow on her wedding day hence the bad omens in contrast with the glowing benefisence of venus-jupiter presented to the watching global audience.

Addendum -

Proliferation of JUPITER CONJUNCT SATURN

Conjunct on Diana's birth

Conjunct on Diana's Wedding Day.

Also on death - Fixed Star Dorsum conj MC-JU

Fixed star Dorsum is of the nature of Saturn and Jupiter (dignified, pious, conservative, acquisitive, retentive), and is of unfortunate influence. [Robson]

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Zeus-Admetos on the Aries Point. I couldn't really figure it out on first glance but then a few mins later it came to me with Zeus = warfare & ammunition whilst Admetos ending or limiting/reducing thus pointing to her global influence on the efforts to ban landmines
Very good point Greg!
Of Zeus-Admetos, the Rulebook says
"To tackle a problem, struggling activity. Raw materials from mines, ore."
The name Admetus is primarily a gender-neutral name of Greek origin that means Untamed, Untamable. And he was a Thessalonian king renowned for his hospitality.
Blessings!

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With Neptune/Poseidon at the Aries Point between 2020-2030, we are blending collectively our individualities into a greater whole.
NE/PO = Aries Point, the rulebook says
'The general false faith. The generality has the wrong attitude, its succumbs to great errors. Misrepresentation of facts, faked facts, false ideas and views. The wrong worldview. The wrong faith. Water floodings'.
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Under a trend of Neptune and Poseidon.
When Jupiter joins = successfully pretend, advances in AI.
With Saturn = New laws and regulations to enshrine the new technologies

What social medias have been successful at is to agglomerate isolated people into a virtual community, a global village.
Today, people are looking for a place in the world and they are not even sure of having one. In search for something meaningful.

In his most recent book 'L'odyssée du sacré', the philosopher and sociologist Frédéric Lenoir signed an analysis of our perpetual need for spiritual quest since the dawn of time.
The author says he notes a dissociation of the spiritual and religious in the Western world, a refusal of the management of the sacred by collective organizations and a loss of confidence in them.
'The contemporary event is therefore this distancing which means that there are more and more individuals who are spiritual and not religious, even atheists, but also individuals who are religious without being spiritual, that is- that is to say for whom religion is just a collective identity, and we see this in a somewhat tragic way today,” he says.
We should witness the strong development of an “off-track” spirituality, which is no longer linked to the collective or to religious traditions, in the continuity of the collapse of religion which has been observed in the West. We could also see the phenomenon of hardening religious identity continuing, particularly in other cultural areas, in reaction to the loss of bearings, to individualism, to materialism,” he continues. This could even create religious revivals in the West, but in different forms that we cannot yet imagine today, or even the birth of new religions. »
https://www.lapresse.ca/arts/litteratur ... lenoir.php

Some collective trends

You connect your new Samsung phone. Immediately, 107 anonymous servers record information from your phone.

Lusha is one of them. It says that it helps business professionals establish a fast and true connection with their leads, contacts, and candidates. With Lusha, sales professionals can identify, engage and close prospects. It has expanded to over 670,000 sales professionals and 223,000 sales organizations including Zendesk, Google and Yotpo.

Acxion is the largest data broker in the world with information on more than 2.5 billion people. Some of their database contain more than 30,000 data identifiers on each person.

These companies say that they record information that remains anonymous.
At the Imperial College in London, they did a test to see if they could identify someone with only 6 collected data (city, married, college degree, male, birthdate and working).
They were able to geo-localize this person.
We know nothing about them but they know everything about us.

SNPedia is a wiki-based bioinformatics web site that serves as a database of single nucleotide polymorphisms.
With a single DNA snip, they can know your physical features, eyes color, behavior and potential diseases. Right now, by law, in U.S.A and China, they take a sample of every newborn child. 400M samples of people are stored in a database in Europe and the GAFAM are waiting to legally use. Like insurance companies in Switzerland. Amazon and Meta are working on a project to jump into the insurances.

From your Facebook profile, they can predict your social, psychological and physical profile.
On the website Apply Magic Sauce, you drag and drop your digital footprints and the demo will predict your political, psychological and sexual behaviour from your profile.
Something banks, insurances and governments are interested and already using.

You are presenting a new start-up in the Silicone Valley and the organizers are inviting you to a Chinese restaurant (your favorite!) and they offer you the latest BlueTooth headphone (your daughter will love it!). How did they know? Simple, they scanned your profile from your Internet browsing, emails, messages and social medias information. They know you inside out. And they are selling this information to private companies.

In the past decade, AI has been used in presidential elections in U.S.A and some other countries in the world to target voters.

Another trend thay may develop is travelling with Virtual Reality. Because in Uranian Astrology, Neptune rules airplanes.
Check the new post by Janegca on LTA research 1st Test of an Airship filled with helium.

Neptune/Poseidon also means water, lots of water. Incidents related to flooding will increase on Earth.

McLuhan said that 'the medium is the message' and this is exactly what we are witnessing right now. The GAFAM are 'containers'. They prey on people's information and put it into a box to make money. With no customer service. Remember the first computers that regularly crashed with this message 'Please contact your Internet Service Provider'. This is a hardware and software issue. Nothing to do with your ISP. The GAFAM are not acting like responsible citizens and they are sweeping the problems they are creating to someone else. It is about time we make them accountable, which might not be an easy task with Neptune and Poseidon at the Aries Point.

The dilemma for human beings is security vs freedom.
And the algorithms (anonymous) are starting to decide for us. In Canada, they passed a law so that you can challenge a decision taken by Artificial Intelligence and ask that a human being go over the decision, in health, insurances, job employment, government issues.
Blessings!

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As someone who knows next to nothing about the Uranian branch of astrology, this is a fascinating thread to read through. Thanks, Ouranos. The last section, where you talk about 2020-2030, and the NE/PO = Aries Point, really had me captivated. It's interesting how you mention flooding but also tech's effect and the GAFAM -- With how pervasive tech is at this point, it brought to mind a collective "the fish is the last to discover water" scenario.

Have you tried pairing the techniques with something from the traditional sphere, like the most recent "great" Jupiter/Saturn conjunction? I'd be interested in seeing something on that.

What are the differences between Ebertin vs. Witte's approaches? I'm only vaguely familiar with both of them. I have Ebertin's Combination of Stellar Influences, and it's great, but I note he doesn't use the trans-neptunian (is that right?) planets that you do in following Witte's teachings.

james_m mentions the idea of having a dedicated Uranian category added to the forum. I think that would be a great idea, though I'm not sure what sort of work that requires on the back end, and I know they are probably up to their ears with work right now as they make updates to the site. Are there any other forums on the web dedicated to the Uranian branch?
thoughts are just thoughts