May, 24, 1949 too.

Don't be aggressive.

hi lunlumo

thanks for your take on matters here regarding east/west germany and the astrology surrounding it... i read an article about a week ago that shed some light from a different angle on the separation of east and west germany, that i was unfamiliar with... if you're interested - here is the substack post on this..

https://karlof1.substack.com/p/on-the-c ... e-division

if what is said in this document can be confirmed, the history becomes more clear.. at the same time i have another article which again focuses on germany, but from the angle of it's youth titled - "Why are young Germans so worried about war?"

from the article - "a recent youth study published by the German branch of the oil giant Shell revealed an alarming fact: the greatest fear of young Germans is the outbreak of a full-scale war in Europe. According to the study, 81% of young people share this fear. In 2019, the figure was just 46%." read the article, if interested - https://unherd.com/newsroom/why-are-you ... about-war/

i think you are right about the importance of the election sept 28th, 2025.. below is a chart for noon sept 28th 2025 for berlin - dst in tropical zodiac...



as one can see at a casual glance the sun is in opposition to the saturn-neptune conjunction that i was questioning earlier on how this conjunction in early aries will impact the 1871 chart... below is a biwheel with the noon chart for the election on the inside and the 1871 chart on the outside...



as one can see there are a number of connections between the 1871 chart and the timing for this election in 2025... perhaps the most obvious is the mars-saturn square in the 1871 chart which is highlighted by the sun opp saturn/neptune in the transit chart...

perhaps it is easier to look at the 1871 with the transits from sept 2025 on the outside wheel... here is the biwheel for this below..



there happens to be a fairly close mars-pluto square in the election event chart which picks up the 1871 moon position in the 8th house and to an extent the 1871 mercury position... essentially the transit of pluto to the 1871 mercury position is of long duration and functioning at present as well, and continuing on into 2025...

thanks for making me aware of how to read the 1990 chart as a reunification chart, as opposed to a stand alone chart for germany.. that makes a lot of sense... cheers james

Thx for referring that chart to the 1871 chart!
The elections always end at 18:00 local time. Then there'll the first prognosis - usually quite reliable. AC (tropical) will be at 8 degrees Pisces, MO conj MC (exact at 21 Scorpio).
Interesting articles! Especially the Shell investigation. What has been most surprising: the once radically pacifistic "Green Party" (traditionally strong in G.) now firmly insist on supporting the Ukraine, including money and weapons. Whereas the AfD (Alternative für Deutschland) says no to that support. And that party gets the majority of votes from the young aged between 18 and 25. And, indeed: especially the young fear the country might sooner or later be drawn into what's going on in Eastern Europe... In Putin's view G. is already regarded as an enemy. Germany is facing a serious crisis - there'll doubtless be a most critical time ahead. As I mentioned somewhere above: The Mahadasa starting in spring 2025 will be a Mars Dasa. (Raman ayanamsa).

hi lunlumo

i apologize but i had used sept 25, 2025 in those biwheel charts, as opposed to sept 28th 2025 as you had said.. here is the sept 28 2025 election date chart to berlin dst, for 1800 hours below.. - tropical zodiac..



it is interesting the close conjunction of the moon at 21 sag with the midheaven at the same degree.. the voice of the people is heard?? the closing time chart is a nice looking chart in many respects.. the ascendant ruler jupiter in cancer in the 5th, and the moon conjunction the midheaven.. it is offset some due the moon square the nodal axis and to a lesser extent square saturn - a 7 1/2 degree orb square.. the 150 between moon and jupiter also takes away from it.. that is moon in jupiters 6th and jupiter in the moons 8th.. then there is the square between the 1st and 7th house rulers ( jupiter/mercury), which is also the case with the 4/10 house rulers...

here is the biwheel with the transits for the closing time of the election to the 1871 chart...



much remains the same - mars pluto square in the transits hits onto the natal moon in the 8th more convincingly.. i am not sure how much weight to put into the closing time of the election here... one nice thing is the transit of jupiter to 1871 uranus... that always suggests some positive change for the better to me anyway...

here is yet another article on germany which you might also find interesting with a quote from it -
"At the current rate of procurement, it would take Germany up to almost 100 years to reach the military stocks of 20 years ago. This contrasts with the massive growth in Russian armaments capacities, including modern weapons systems, which produce the entire volume of German weapons stocks in just over six months."

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/fileadmin/Datei ... rt_no1.pdf

The chart of an election is not the time of the beginning and not of the end
but the time of the publishing of the result.

hey fidibus

you've made a lot of one line type passing comments which i haven't responded to, but i will respond to this one..

how do you make a chart for ''the time of the publishing of the result''?

the fact is astrologers into mundane astrology typically use the official start or finish time of these elections to make predictions.. and of course because these times are defined, a chart can be made on them to speculate on the possibilities surrounding the election... if you are following the astrological process with regard to the usa election - it's the same deal...

i am curious about your astrological insights, but i am not getting anything of it from your comment here.. cheers james

Hi James,
that chart 28th Sept.'25, 18:00 - can hardly be seen as the definite result, the final outcome of those elections. However, it will tell us s.th. concerning the emotional impact of that moment: at precisely 18:00 millions of German will be staring at the prognosis presented to them - and this prognosis will be close to the final results which will follow, say two or three hours later. And indeed, the moon conj. MC will have to be understood as the people's voice/vote.
But, as I mentioned before, it may well be that the present coalition - three parties - will not last until then. So elections may take place before Sept. '28 - provided the President (Steinmeier) will give his OK - but he may refuse as well (lessons of the Weimar Republic: too many elections, resulting in weak and unstable governments... ) Whenever those elections may be: They'll have a far reaching relevance for both Germany and Europe. German matters have always been European matters- and vice versa. No doubt about that.

fidibus

i like what appears to be an independence streak in you! i am a bit this way myself, so i can relate! i would be curious about what kind of astrology you practice? what do you do with mundane astrology other then take pot shots at what you think are the wrong methods?? do you have any methods you use you'd like to share?? i appreciate you have a viewpoint on what are the wrong methods, lol... tell us something about what you do astrologically.. your appreciation of j.r jimerez is cool... it reminds me of a saying that i like - the further you go, the less you know.. it goes well with another lao tzu quote - those who know, don't speak and those who speak don't know.. cheers...

lunlumo

thanks... yes, it is possible the date of sept 28th, 2025 will fall by the wayside if an early election is called and that is possible here too.. as i understand it germany and france were the 2 countries that are the essential starting point for the idea of the european union, in spite of it being much bigger now.. i continue to think it was a neoliberal idea to take control out of the individual gov'ts and put it in the hands of unelected officials thru various committees or commissions like the european commission which ursala von leyen heads..

regarding the comment you made on the dasas for the 1871 chart - the dasas are based on a 125 year cycle as i understand it... this would mean they have gone beyond the 125 years and are into about their 153 years here... - if the cycle repeats - using krisnamurti ayanamsa, i get moon as the main dasa here until 2032 when mars dasa takes over... that is one of the many problems with dasas - a reliance on a particular ayanamsa which someone else might not share!! this solar fire 9 prog i have doesn't generate the dasas beyond 125 years.. i have to calculate it myself and that is what i get here - moon dasa til about 2032 when mars as main dasa happens.. if moon dasa applies here, that casts a pale given the moons position in the 8th house, although tropical taurus which would be considered favourable by sign...

interesting is that for oct 2024 is see solar arc moon is conjunct ascendant using the options i have on my laptop.. it's about 2-3 years away from moving into the square to the sun/midheaven/rka axis... rka - rahu-ketu axis... again at this time this highlights the voice of the people coming thru loud and clear and not jiving with the leadership in place in germany at present... but we can't just isolate one symbol and make a meal of it... that s an additional bit of info that fits with the dynamics in germany at present as i understand it.. thanks for your additional commentary lunlumo!

further to my link in the previous comment i left - this is a good summary of the 93 page pdf - as fidibus says - less words to say more..
https://weapons.substack.com/p/a-distur ... s-it-clear

James, what will be in case Trumps wins? He'd definitely reduce the support for the Ukraine - so the greater part would be on German shoulders.
Biden has announced there'd be additional US-nuclear weapons sent to Germany (in accordance with Scholz) - and this has markedly increased the fear that Putin might take his revenge. -The SA_NE-conj. will be opposite the MA of the 1871 chart, then square SA... And there'll be a sharp MA_PL-Opposition in the forthcoming solar with PL in house 1, MA in 7... However, I see the Solar for GB (chart 1st Jan, 1801) would not really be different, a shift of just a few degrees of MC and AC...