Re: Trump blows his top! 13 by janegca Hi Mark, Mark wrote: Thats my take too. I have had it ever since I noticed the Aries ingress MC falls close to Trump's ASC and exactly on JD Vance's ASC degree. If I get any time before the election I may put my own piece out on that. Its just the prediction list has been incredibly time consuming and become a bit of an all consuming monstor. You've done an amazing job keeping us informed on how astrologer's are seeing the election period, saved me a lot of digging, thank you. Vance's chart makes me nervous, Sun in Leo partile square Saturn in Scorpio with Mars partile conjunct the IC and Mercury in Virgo in 1st closely square Uranus also in the 4th; Neptune and Pluto in partile sextile with Pluto partile square the 12th. Some very strong, not so nice configurations. Not someone I'd want in charge of a large military ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:29 pm
Re: Trump blows his top! 14 by Therese Hamilton Janegca wrote: Agree he'll be in a battle but I'm not sure it's because he loses; rather, I think the charts show he will win but something occurs either around the inauguration date or possibly later, in the spring, that will result in Vance taking over. Mark wrote: That's my take too. I have had it ever since I noticed the Aries ingress MC falls close to Trump's ASC and exactly on JD Vance's ASC degree. If I get any time before the election I may put my own piece out on that. Its just the prediction list has been incredibly time consuming and become a bit of an all consuming monster. Mark, I know it's quite true about the amount of time you are taking for the prediction list, which we are all reading with great interest. I hope you will be able to write at least a short post on the techniques you are using to predict a Trump win. I'm looking forward to your post as you are with the minority of astrologers predicting a Trump win. http://www.snowcrest.net/sunrise/LostZodiac.htm Quote Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:27 pm
Re: Trump blows his top! 15 by Greg Young janegca wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:22 pm Hi Greg, Greg Young wrote: It's a fair point you make but what I'm suggesting is that he will be fighting for his life, with no hands barred and this is shown by the charts themselves. As below..... Agree he'll be in a battle but I'm not sure it's because he loses; rather, I think the charts show he will win but something occurs either around the inauguration date or possibly later, in the spring, that will result in Vance taking over; i.e. I think the battle will be an internal one; apologies for not making that clear in my first post; I was focused on your idea that he wouldn't be so angry if he won. If you and Mark are right then you both deserve medals for what seems to be a unique take on events. It will be interesting to see the astrology behind it. Quote Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:24 am
Re: Trump blows his top! 16 by janegca Hi Greg, Greg Young wrote: If you and Mark are right then you both deserve medals for what seems to be a unique take on events. It will be interesting to see the astrology behind it. Yes, hope Mark will have time to summarize and post his thoughts. Whatever happens, right or wrong, I plan on reviewing how I got there (been trying to keep decent notes on my thinking). Unfortunately I don't think we'll know on Nov 5th, I fear results may take some time, especially if it all comes down to the Electoral College which I'm beginning to suspect may be connected to all the 9th house activity that's been popping up in so many charts. ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:21 pm
Re: Trump blows his top! 17 by Greg Young Interesting Sabian Symbol for the MC of the New Moon yesterday, Black child playing with white children This universal idea is best expressed through planets in Virgo 4 (3° - 4°) FREEDOM FROM PREJUDICE Racial prejudice is evidence of a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of reality "Freedom from prejudicial mental constructs and beliefs" An omen of what's to come? Kemi and Kami... the 2 K's clash! (ref. to Marcus Garvey/J.Strummer). It's square Admetos indicating a delay...drat. Quote Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:10 pm
Re: Trump blows his top! 18 by Dima Gur Hi everyone, Wanted to chime in as I recently tried to use some traditional predictive methods to see which of the candidates comes up on top. Most of the predictive methods pointed to Kamala as having the edge. If you guys want to check it out, and tell me what you think, I'd be honored. https://www.gurastro.com/2024/11/us2024elections.html https://www.gurastro.com Quote Mon Nov 04, 2024 12:02 am
Re: Trump blows his top! 19 by Ouranos Thank you for sharing Dima, Just with PD, distribution and transits, you can already draw valuable information for the year. Don't forget that distribution is a sign and a bound. For exemple, Trump with the ASC having moved to Scorpio is ruled by MA (sign) and MA (bound). And it has to be adapted to the person'life. A child, with Gemini rising moved to an art school when his ASC reached the bound of Venus. What aspect is MA sending or receiving this year? Check the motion. R or D. For Trump, the transit of MA/UR over his MC was more important because he is now under the chronocator of MA in square to himself. In 2 days, MA will oppose PL. Next, Profection and SR can help to narrow down the area of life. I always check what JU (expansion ) and SA (contraction) are doing in relationship to the chronocators. Note: It has been a long with standing tradition to look at the Mars of the next President with Astro*Carton*Graphy to see which country he is most likely to go at war. For Trump, it is rising in Washington and he talks about the interior enemy. Revealing. Best to you, Ouranos Last edited by Ouranos on Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:51 am, edited 2 times in total. Blessings! Quote Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:38 am
Re: Trump blows his top! 20 by astralwanderer Thanks for posting this comprehensive and clear forecast. It's really helpful to see these methods set out so clearly. The analysis makes a lot of sense. Best wishes. Ed "...the motions that are akin to the divine in us are the thoughts and revolutions of the universe." Plato, Timaeus, 90. Quote Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:58 am
Re: Trump blows his top! 21 by Dima Gur Astralwanderer (Ed): Thanks! Appreciated. Ouranos: Definitely, ascendant ruler directed to a new sign is also important. Admittedly, I don't use chronocrators enough, but I don't argue such usage of chronocrators. Always something to improve upon It's the second time I hear about using ACG for such a purpose, will have to check it out sooner or latter. Thanks. https://www.gurastro.com Quote Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:19 pm
Re: Trump blows his top! 22 by Mark Greg Young wrote: If you and Mark are right then you both deserve medals for what seems to be a unique take on events. It will be interesting to see the astrology behind it. Thanks. I had a really heavy day today channelling that nasty Mars-Pluto opposition but that comment gave me a chuckle. To be a fair a fairly sizeable chunk of the astrological community think Trump might win. Approximately about a third if my list is reliable (36). Looking at the astrological prospects of both candidates the testimonies seem quite mixed. Many astrologers using time lord systems like Vedic dashas, zodiacal releasing or firdaria seem to conclude Harris will win. In contrast many favouring a Trump win see his immediate transits around the election day favouring him. The fact both candidates have prominent later Gemini degrees and lunar nodes does not make the process any easier. Trump's solar return does look less favourable but he has had two assassination attempts this year and its possible his position could decline later even if he wins. Trump is likely to face further legal action and his health may deteriorate. On the other hand Trump's lunar return looks better than Harris to me. However, if as expected the election result is delayed that advantage will not endure. I have had minimal time to compose my own thoughts. Compiling the predictions of other astrologers has been exceptionally time consuming. I have also actually had a rush of late predictions coming in too I need to review and collate. Personally, I am going through a 12th house profectional year with its ruler Mars currently opposing my natal Sun and opposing Pluto by transit just now. It doesn't seem an auspicious time to issue a public prediction. I would probably be well advised to remain silent and just observe and learn! .I am genuinely curious to see how the different astrological techniques hold up. I also want to analyse the statistics of the astrologers on my list. Mark As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly Quote Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:43 am
Re: Trump blows his top! 23 by SadgeSun Mark wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:43 am Greg Young wrote: If you and Mark are right then you both deserve medals for what seems to be a unique take on events. It will be interesting to see the astrology behind it. Thanks. I had a really heavy day today channelling that nasty Mars-Pluto opposition but that comment gave me a chuckle. To be a fair a fairly sizeable chunk of the astrological community think Trump might win. Approximately about a third if my list is reliable (36). Looking at the astrological prospects of both candidates the testimonies seem quite mixed. Many astrologers using time lord systems like Vedic dashas, zodiacal releasing or firdaria seem to conclude Harris will win. In contrast many favouring a Trump win see his immediate transits around the election day favouring him. The fact both candidates have prominent later Gemini degrees and lunar nodes does not make the process any easier. Trump's solar return does look less favourable but he has had two assassination attempts this year and its possible his position could decline later even if he wins. Trump is likely to face further legal action and his health may deteriorate. On the other hand Trump's lunar return looks better than Harris to me. However, if as expected the election result is delayed that advantage will not endure. I have had minimal time to compose my own thoughts. Compiling the predictions of other astrologers has been exceptionally time consuming. I have also actually had a rush of late predictions coming in too I need to review and collate. Personally, I am going through a 12th house profectional year with its ruler Mars currently opposing my natal Sun and opposing Pluto by transit just now. It doesn't seem an auspicious time to issue a public prediction. I would probably be well advised to remain silent and just observe and learn! .I am genuinely curious to see how the different astrological techniques hold up. I also want to analyse the statistics of the astrologers on my list. Mark Thank you for all the work and time you have put into this exercise, Mark. As a student of astrology I have found reading each astrologer’s predictions incredibly worthwhile even if in quite a few cases some of what they said went way over my head. When it’s all done and dusted I would really like to hear from as many astrologers as possible whose predictions were incorrect, their assessment on where they found their predictions didn’t pan out and their thoughts on “why”. Would that be too torturous an exercise? One of the best ways to learn is when things don’t go according to plan. Quote Tue Nov 05, 2024 5:24 am
Re: Trump blows his top! 24 by Greg Young The next job is collecting results on what date exactly the election winner will be known. Something tells me its going to drag on.....and on. Trump seemingly has momentum on his side so I wonder if he simply runs out of time by a few days (Saturn st.). Sad. Quote Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:54 am