In german news they say it happened short before 12:30 p.m.
I took 12:27

Interesting is Mars on the top of house 2.
that fits
someone is aggressive outside the community

moon at 5 taurus also is
Breaking out of the community

There was a report in the news that someone was privately filming on the phone. An exact time is not given. I also had a destroying event yesterday with 8 degrees cancer at the AC, but with 3 degrees pisces at MC and Mars in house 1 because it happened in Gernany. It was a family affair. What does this mean for the
swedish event?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Risb ... l_shooting

the shooting started at 1233pm local according to a few different sources.. the angles are off in the chart you've shown.. here it is for 1233pm local.. tropical zodiac..
the moon is very close to exact the jupiter/neptune and jupiter/rahu midpoint.. this is partly explained by the close neptune/rahu or north node conjunction.. uranus is at the moon/jupiter midpoint..

the shooting only ended at 14 hours 15 minutes which puts saturn right on the midheaven degree 17 pisces 56 and 45 to pluto at 2 aquarius 10.. the ascendant has moved on to 26 cancer 39 - 45 jupiter at 11 gemini 17..

11 people dead...reason or perpetrator for this still not mentioned in the media... what was the motive??

Hello James, german news said that the announcement was at 12:33 p.m. and the event was short before 12:30 p.m. But BBC says that the event was at 12:33. I think the Mars of the event was exactly at the Top of the 2nd House

james_m wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:49 pm what was the motive??

Moon at 5 degrees taurus could mean bullying.
He was not part of the community.

fidibus

you appear to be using the degrees of the tropical zodiac in some manner similar to the sabian symbols, but perhaps more specific...

does everyone who has a planet at 5 taurus suffer from bullying?? is everyone with a planet at this degree also ''not a part of the community''?

obviously someone who kills a number of innocent people suffers from something and could be characterized as not being a part of the community in some way... it doesn't require a specific degree be emphasized as i see it..

some, but not a lot of info is gotten off this link which requires a translation, which my browser provides...

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/rick ... t-i-orebro

Not everybody who kills was an oitsider.

we can speak in generalizations, or we can talk astrology... i would prefer the later...

what is your astrological rationale for the loner tag?

ps, you are very good at avoiding answers to my questions... very impressive!

Hi James,

that seems to be a difficult business. I just say what I know or what I suppose to know. That means not every question gets an answer. My person is not the object of these discussions but the event at itself. May be my thought about bullying was not right. Several points of this radix have the energy of social isolation. In many amok events we had the bullying of the perpetrator in the surrounding of the crime. That was the reason why I wrote this. In 12:39 p.m. we see the death at the MC with a Pluto/Moon Uranus at the AC. May be we have a “mother problem”. German astrology has another view on the topics than Anglican, I see. But won’t kill each other.

Fidibus

I wonder if we can look at such events only from the horoscope of the beginning

it's a communication thing fidibus... i thought perhaps due the fact you are german and english isn't your first language, that this in part explained the communication, but it seems your english is fine... instead i have come to conclude you say bizarre things that are hard to understand, but have no interest in giving the ideas more meaning astrologically to help others understand where you are coming from astrologically... it is easy for me to give up talking with you...

let me use your last statement as an example - "I wonder if we can look at such events only from the horoscope of the beginning"

perhaps you are suggesting that using the chart with the event time of 1233pm - is what you are referring to in your ''horoscope of the beginning''... it is hard to know, which is why again - the communication style requires that i ask questions - ie 'what does fidibus mean here?' obviously having the birth time and chart of the perpetrator would shed a lot more light astrologically on this event in sweden, as might the charts of the victims... but we don't have any of that..

when i point out this idea of degrees having some sort of symbolic meaning, which is the basis for the sabian symbols in astrology, it appears this is what you are doing, but i get no answer to this question.... i would say that this is exactly what you are doing, but your reluctance to acknowledge this adds to the confusion.. so, i think i will go back to ignoring your posts and input on skyscript... it is too difficult to intuit or comprehend what the astrology is in what you are doing astrologically and you appear to have no interest in elaborating on your astrological approach, but instead one line caustic appearing statements i am unable to unravel or get any real use out of... enjoy the rest of your day!

Hi James, in the beginning of my staying in this room I used a google translater because I was unsecure. It is long ago that I spoke english a lot. Then I found out that my own english is more understandable than google. I guess I am able to understand your problem with me. But here in this room we talk about this horoscope and the event in sweden but not about me. I love Samuel Beckett. Not only Estragon is waiting for Godot but also Wladimir. Have a happy friday, dear James.
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