Mystery Event 1 by Ariondys The Native 13mar1997 10:47am PST(49n40 44, 125w00 40) Rodden rating- A (AS=28ge58 40)(MC=25aq55 30)(MO=26ta38 44) rectified to be 10:59:16am (AS=1ca47 13)(MC=29aq07 25)(MO=26ta45 36) The Event 22jun2013 4:35pm PDT(49n59 33, 125w16 05) (AS=5sc36 45)(MC=17aq20 34)(MO=24ta33 24) The question What was the event? (give some astrological reasons...) Last edited by Ariondys on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:16 pm, edited 2 times in total. Quote Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:23 am
2 by nahid.fs hi Through the history of the event, the ascendent is scorpio (unclear, death, fear), and the lord is Mars (iron, blood, violence, weapon) and he is the lord of the 6th house (decease, illness, vichels, small animals) . Mars transits the 8th (death, fear) to 7th house and still in gimini ) Because the 6th house is melefic by the S.nod which conjuncts the fortune's lot , so the event was interests the iron (weapon) as as using agun and became he at hands of police (Mars under beam) Aecond way is through the profiction one : The orrigionl ascendent is gimini which lord is Mercury in combustion at the 9th house and we see Mercury himself the lord of the 8th house (death, mysteriouse) of the profiction chart occupies and transits the 8th to the 9th profictional chart and also he combusts Mercury reffers to children While, the profictional ascendent is scorpio and it's lord Mars transits to the 4th house arial sign (aqr) and this house is of the death and mysteriouse combine both death (8th) and under ground (4th). Ana Mars (prfiction) conjuncts Jupiter (orrigional) Through the priviouse siginfications, i say the event is unclear death If it's so, then what is the reason ? Who participates the event ? Because The Sun (one of the family) may has arole in the matter, especially the event may happened in the family (2th) house of the profiction and the 9th (studying) is very bad especially in both charts And we see the firdaria Venus-Mars , and they are the same time the lords, beside Moon, of the watery triplicity It's noted the weakness and deceit (s.nod) of them for more reason The child exposed to ahuge intencity (the lot of it in the 12th) Quote Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:53 pm
3 by james_m hi ariondys i love these kinds of challenges, even if i get it wrong! thanks for doing this. i see some kind of relationship theme going on. might be a reconciliation with a parent for example for the reasons i cite below. the transit chart for the event has saturn conjunction the ascendant. the solar return chart for the person has saturn in the 7th and ruler of the 10th.. saturn rules the 10th in the persons natal chart as well. that all points to a focus on the parent represented by the 10th. the transit chart is essentially a full moon chart with the sun/jupiter on the persons ascendant - regardless of the 1047 or 1059am time. this will instill greater confidence in the person and the potential for a new beginning of sorts..sun in cancer emphasizes the family theme and in the ascendant on a full moon i believe it is a relation with a family member. full moons emphasize relationship themes especially when they land close to the ascendant/descendant axis.. now if i am flat out wrong - great! i have enjoyed the challenge. Quote Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:49 pm
4 by Ariondys nahid, For your 1st chart of the Event time: the chart you show is with the incorrect daylight savings, PDT is -7 hours from GMT. You might like to adjust it to 23:35 UT Quote Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:53 pm
5 by Ariondys james_m, I enjoy it all too. I had a significator in mind to find, since I know what the the event is, but I enjoy watching people's approaches. All so very different from my own. And producing different perspectives. I'm not James Randi though, I'll probably help by pointing out some significators later. I'm not sure what later is yet, I'll play it by ear. The approach seems to be to locate some kind of significator to window into the charts. Quote Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:37 pm
Re: Mystery Event 6 by johannes susato Ariondys wrote:The Native 13mar1997 10:47am PST(49n40 44, 125w00 40) Rodden rating- A rectified to be 10:59:16am The Event 22jun2013 4:35pm PDT(49n59 33, 125w16 05) The question What was the event? (give some astrological reasons...) Hi Ariondys, to avoid errors it would be very helpful, if you could give the data of the AC and MC both of the nativity and the event, please. Johannes Quote Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:27 pm
7 by johannes susato thanks for completing your initial post with all AC/MC data, Ariondys. Quote Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:05 pm
8 by nahid.fs Thanks Ariondys First look to the chart seams fear, and there is an ancient astrology rule says : if the lord of the ascendent is at the 8th and the lord of the 8th is at the 9th that means the death That is oviouse here Mars is the lord of the ascendent is at the 8th, and Mercury the lord of the 8th is at the 9th (cancer) and cancer naturally is the 4th which reffers to grave and it's lord (Moon) is with misfortune aspect (opposite) with Sun The Sun (life,vitality) is not at a good situation especially she is at the death house (8th) and her more malefic aspect with Moon reffers to two important bad things which are the Soul and the Body It's known if these two essential elements are bad then every thing is bad Yet now we can judge that the event is death but abad death which is a suicide by athing cnocerns air because the killer of the ascendent is the 8th and the 8th is an arial (gimini) and gimini is the naturally the 3th isold brotherl sister but here the suicide with asister the partner in the event (death) because she is the lord of the 7th Then what reffers to this judgement is Saturn which occupies the 5 killer degrees (Ptolomy) and it's known the Saturn's signification of death and it's retrograde (losses) one of the family (sister) and the home (3th,4th) The result is : Asorryfull suicide event happened to the child Quote Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:21 am
9 by Ariondys ok, very good. I get lost following reasons along the way, but that's as much my fault probably since I'm not that expert with using rulerships. What I'm thinking is next I will post either: A) multiple choice, or B) some astrological reasons present. If I can think up plausible enough choices... Which do you prefer? Quote Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:31 am
10 by Ariondys ok, very good. I get lost following reasons along the way, but that's as much my fault probably since I'm not that expert with using rulerships. What I'm thinking is next I will post either: A) multiple choice, or B) some astrological reasons present. If I can think up plausible enough choices... Which do you prefer? Quote Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:40 am
11 by nahid.fs Yes, i see there are more than a reason to this question, some of them : - Apscychological disease, that also Mars beside the lord of the ascendent is the lord of the 6th (diseases) and he is in gimini which concerns nerves and Mercury the lord of gimini represents the brain the center of nerves , and this Mercury is not banefic here because the 12th of him has malefics , and conjuncts Venus the lord of the 7th (partner) and the 12th (troubles) The 6th is Aries (fire) represents the head So, the child suffers from apscychological tension because his beloved girl (Venus) , that Mercury the reason of the death (8th) conjuncts her. Jupiter the lord of passions (5th) in combustion at the 8th ,Then, the lords of the triplicity are Venus and Mars, there is no aspect between them but there is a reception between them (triplicity, term) but the malefic S-node which occupies Venuses house (7th) made her refuse him she is never comfotable because the of her house (Moon) is at the 6th from her (2th from the 1th) which is Sagittarios - As asummary, the essential reason is love performed to a nerves tension , and because there was no realising his weshes , so made his bad choice Quote Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:57 am
12 by Ariondys Ok, I hope this is sufficiently random. I'm going with the trivial choice because my Mercury is highly activated at the moment. A) won 10 dollars B) stung by hornets C) spent 800 bucks for a new computer D) twisted ankle E) passed driver's test F) dumped boyfriend G) bought a car H) missed the bus I) got a job J) lost shoe in the mud K) video game achievement M) cooked 1st dinner Quote Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:15 pm