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AJ, thanks for your reply! I took the time directly from a USGS notice that came into my mailbox. I get notices of all the world quakes over (I think it is 5.0?). (I'll double check on the USGS site.) Below is the USGS notice that came into my mailbox.

From USGS:
M7.8 Earthquake - Central Turkey

Preliminary Report
Magnitude 7.8
Date-Time
6 Feb 2023 01:17:37 UTC
6 Feb 2023 03:17:37 near epicenter
5 Feb 2023 17:17:37 standard time in your timezone

So was the USGS site wrong, as we know the difference between UTC and Turkey time is three hours? (I suppose if the USGS can be wrong, I can be wrong too!) O.K., third time is the charm if I have to calculate the chart yet again!

P.S. Yes, it looks like the USGS site has the conversion to Turkey time incorrect. Someone should notify the site.

Therese Hamilton wrote: P.S. Yes, it looks like the USGS site has the conversion to Turkey time incorrect. Someone should notify the site.

Hi Therese: We've all been tripped up more than once with time zones and especially, the great bane of astrologers, daylight savings time.

I tried the chart in Kepler, Cosmic Patterns is one of the better astro software for having more locations by thousands than the ACS atlas, keeping up with DST changes etc., yet it got the time zone wrong on this chart as well. It did the same as your older solar fire and used 2 hours east for Gaziantep. Yet version 9 of Solar Fire and SJS 9 did fine both have the ACS atlas. Go figure?

~AJ

AJ, I know that recently the ACS Atlas has been updated, which must be why newer programs have the Turkey time conversion correct. My old Solar Fire can't use the updated ACS Atlas. Different coding.

For those of us living in the western hemisphere, and who can get muddle headed with eastern time conversions, it turns out that the initial chart I posted above was correct for the wrong reasons:

3:17 AM wrong USGS posted local quake time I used
2:00 Less two hours EET (wrong time zone)
1:17 UTC result

4:17 AM correct local quake time
3:00 Less three hours, correct TRT or Baghdad time
1:17 UTC result

(Yes, it took me longer than five minutes to figure this out...)

Why is it so easy to bypass astrological symbolism? Mars on the angles is fire, not earthquakes. Mythological Neptune should be quakes.

So back to change my chart posting above Again!

Therese Hamilton wrote: it turns out that the initial chart I posted above was correct for the wrong reasons:

Happy accidents of a sort! lol.
I guess we all led you down a primrose path of sorts. I came onto this discussion after you had changed your chart.
Glad it's all figured out now.

As always, all the best.
~AJ

Thanks Therese for your overview of the chart.
Yes, Neptune squaring the asc/des axis.
I also noted that the Moon as 8th lord was on the midpoint of Mars/Pluto indicating assaults and grave injury.
Pluto itself was on the midpoint Moon/Jupiter, 8L and ascendant lord respectfully, which would magnify the destructiveness. BTW Jupiter is also 4th lord of property, housing and natural calamities.
There are other connections in addition to what you pointed out these jumped out at me.

Turkey

Oct. 29, 1923 08.30. PM EET (-02.00) Ankara

Source: "The proclamation of the republic took place in the National Assembly in Ankara at exactly 8:30 p.m., and it is for this that the horoscope for modern Turkey should be set.

" Nicholas Campion, "The Book of World Horoscopes,"



The exact time must be 8:28 p.m.

Secondary Progression on 6 February at 04:17 (Harmonic 4096)

it shows the earthquake and the war .

p SU/SA = p SA/KR = p UR/ZE = r UR = WI
p SA = r JU
p SU= p KR = r ZE/KR




Saturn Return (Harmonic 4096) - first view

As I wrote in my paper. It shows the earthquake

return SU/KR = return JU/SA = r UR = WI




Saturn Return (Harmonic 4096) - second view

As it is written in Rulebook for Planetary Picture. It is a war

return UR/KR = return SU = return ZE = r ZE





Solar Return (Harmonic 4096) - first view

solar SU/KR = solar UR = r SU/ZE
solar UR/ZE = solar KR = r ZE




Solar Return (Harmonic 4096) - second view

solar SU/ZE = solar UR/KR

I did send a note to the USGS (U.S. Geological Survey) alerting them to the incorrect local time for Turkey, and they kindly replied. This is good information to have for anyone who has relied on USGS for accurate local timing for earthquakes.

Hello,
We are aware of the present shortcoming of the ENS local time estimate, and will add some explanation soon concerning our epicentral time value.
ENS provides standard time as the epicentral time and does not currently track local adoptions of daylight savings or other local time zone policy.
We are investigating improvements.

Thank you.

ENS Admin

According to Senator Diana Ivanovici Șoșoacă, earthquake in Turkey and Syria was caused by the U.S.


"Romanian senator Diana Ivanovici Șoșoacă, speaking on 8 February before the Romanian Parliament, observed that:

One minute before seismographers detected the earthquake, Turkish gas and oil pipelines were shut down (NB. This is the only allegation we were unable to verify).

24 hours before the earthquake, 10 Western countries recalled their ambassadors from Ankara.

5 days before the earthquake, several Western countries, including Romania, issued a travel warning to Turkey without providing a motivation."


https://www.voltairenet.org/article218842.html



"The earthquake that has just shaken Turkey and Syria does not have the characteristics of earthquakes observed so far, anywhere in the world. The fact that a dozen Western ambassadors left Ankara in the five days preceding the earthquake and that, in the same period, their countries issued advice not to travel to Turkey seems to indicate that the West knew in advance what was going to happen. The United States has the technical means to cause earthquakes. In 1976, they promised never to use them.

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has asked his intelligence services (MİT) to investigate what is now only a hypothesis. In the case of a positive response, it would have to be admitted that Washington, aware that it is no longer the world’s leading economic power, nor the world’s leading military power, destroys its allies before it dies."

https://www.voltairenet.org/article218844.html