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Let the discussion roll. I took the liberty of highlighting a few words in the previous posts because this made it easier to locate some of the excellent points being made! If somebody feels that is pushing Mercury's retrograde motion and use of 'moderator' role (Mercury in Libra) too far, then please just give me the buzz! :)
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I think McCain's actions this week beautifully represent this Mercury retrograde influence. McCain postponing his campaign and canceling the debates sent communications, travel, appointments, etc, into general frenzy!

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Kali and group,

My sincerest apologies, I did not realize that I came across as such, I really didn't realize it. I am very sorry if I offended anyone or came across too strong.

As you can see when I get passionate about something I come across too strong and I did not realize it was that bad. Thank you for letting me know.

It just really is disheartening to me, to see what has happened to America. I feel as if I am watching and have been watching its downfall in so many areas, for many years now.

Kali, especially, I am sorry if I gave that impression that you were an enemy. Not at all. Its good to have a debate.

Its a first house Sun, as well as Mars in Libra, being the Libran that I am, Mars is pretty active for me. So sorry it is something I have to watch, especially when I am passionate about something!

Thank you Andrew for reminding me, and again, so sorry to all!

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Nice post, Morning Sun. Well, I can be a bit over sensitive. :-cry Politics is a passion of mine as well. It helps me greatly to study astrology and watch how planets manifest here on earth. Like I said in early post we have Uranus opposing Saturn and the huge success of Obama has been people believing that message. So much so McCain adopted that theme as well. With this crisis we are going to be forced to change I think.

Had to laugh at a commentator who said this will be the first election where the WINNER is going to ask for a recount! :lala

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Kali,

Is there anyway we can put this down to Mercury Retrograde? Miscommunications??? I'm trying to stay on topic here, as it really is a good topic!! As in Mercury RX in Libra,(as well as Mars in Libra) open enemies, (not really, but odd that the word was used) interesting anyway. Coming across, not as one intended? I think so.

Thanks again for the understanding of passions and beliefs, I should know better!

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MorningSun wrote:Kali,

Is there anyway we can put this down to Mercury Retrograde? Miscommunications??? I'm trying to stay on topic here, as it really is a good topic!! As in Mercury RX in Libra,(as well as Mars in Libra) open enemies, (not really, but odd that the word was used) interesting anyway. Coming across, not as one intended? I think so.
We sure can! This retrograde Mercury is sitting on my Neptune in the 12th. :-?

What is also interesting is Mars in conjunction with reto Mercury. Experiencing anger. Andrew's two examples were connected with violence.

In your example about failed mortgages we find a nation vocalizing extreme angry at all that's being exposed. In the Sibly US chart Mars rules 4th and 12th houses. Mercury rules 7th, public's response.

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Kali,

I think we have managed to turn a positive out of a negative! That is a very apt example, not only experiencing anger, frustration, but (Mercury) verbalizing it in communication, the chart I pulled up for my response, Mercury and Mars were in the 12th. Subconscious fears, doubts, coming to the surface, things you've kept in, coming out in this MercuryRx? Out of my 12th things that are of my own undoing, which Andrew rather saved me from! And I truly did not intend, nor did I realize how strong my writing came across. I thought I was just expressing my opinion as you did. It blew me away also, and made me feel bad, that, that is the reaction I caused, or came across as. It helps to have reminders of that, and to keep things in perspective! :D

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Picking up on the report of unusual delays at airports. Some unusual phenomena was observed at Oslo Airport, Gardemoen this weekend. :

Saturday: 70 guests attending the 60th Jubilee Conference of the Norwegian Diabetic Association at the Clarion Hotel, Oslo Airport, were rushed to 6 different hospitals in the area with acute cases of food poisoning. Amoung the people taken ill were several pregnant women. Fortunately no casualities have been reported.

Sunday morning: Within 20km of the Airport a building complex took fire and 14 apartments were burnt to the ground in an explosive fire. Fortunately, neighbours managed to warn each other. Everyone escaped their homes in time and only two people were taken to hospital with minor injuries.
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Hi just spotted a typo in my post corrected here -

"for instance, I see Mercury oriental as being the proactive stage of talks , negotiations etc, then after its furthest Orientality it eventually reaches its meeting with the Sun , and that moment in talks often shows failures caused by outside factors etc. then its slip into Occidentality is the stage where the consequences are dealt with.

got my orient 'n occident mixed up there, oops ...debilitated Mercury!!
mike c

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Kali,
How is it they are alleging to know where their voters are from? And whether or not they are registered etc. The WSJ report would know I'm In the US because I'm a paying member, but they have no Idea whether or not I'm a registered Voter. I voted in the MSNBC report and they sure as heck have no idea if I'm from timbuktu or the next cubicle, they didn't ask for any info and they aren't a paid subscription. CBS etc the same. At best they may have some idea what server is accessing their server. Never heard of the "drudge report" . Now asside from that, if those numbers are correct I'm glad that so many people outside the US can tell The right man for the Job is Obama. ;-)

As to McCain being right about Accountability, I have to wonder if he was looking in the mirror when he said that.

since 2004 I have used the following polling site to watch the numbers, whatever the numbers maybe and however much I have not liked them, because he has always been right on the electoral numbers, he meshes all the big pollsters and tells you where error lies and why. (Rasmussen etc) http://www.electoral-vote.com/

A week before McCain said "we shouldn't bail out wallstreet" the pollsite had McCain up 30 points, after he said that it steadily reversed and he is now 30 points behind on that counter. it will be interesting to see what happens between now and election day.

Granny