Does Lot of Fortune mitigate a planet at its stakes? 1 by mihalerm Hi all Lets consider the following situation: VENUS/Virgo/12fh house/Asc ruler is in 4th Fortune house/Gemini/9th ftóm Asc and Venus squares Fortune with 4• orb. The question is whether Venus is mitigatad by Fortune. Quote Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:17 pm
2 by Ouranos Mihalerm, I don't have a full picture of your chart, like when you look at the Part of Fortune you must also consider the relationship between the Sun and Moon in the chart as well as other indicators. https://www.astro.com/astrology/in_fortune_e.htm Robert Hand "...let me say that the Part of Fortune is not merely a point like the planets or the nodes. It is the start of a house system. The sign of the Part of Fortune is the first house of the Fortuna system, and the first house of the Fortuna system extends from 0 degrees to 30 degrees of the sign in which the Part is located." So the Lots are places (similar to Houses?) where you find a concentration of energy on a particular topic in your life. Just as if you were asking 'Where is my spouse?' Your spouse is here and whenever this point is activated, you find occurences of events related to your spouse. In your case, Fortuna in Gemini in the 9th (Mutable and Cadent) squaring Venus in Virgo in the 12th (Mutable and Cadent) suggests conditions in life where you can be easily swayed by your relationships. The question is "Do you have enough control over your life or are you living your life in periphery?" You must develop a high level of adaptability with constant changing conditions (work, home, health and relationships). Here is some info here https://sevenstarsastrology.com/twelve- ... -the-lots/ "The Part of Fortune shows the quality of life, the amount of inheritance, and the course of good and bad fortune. Also love and the affection of men toward women, the effects of child- care, and all desires. It shows the fatherland in an easy way. Abram called in the Place of the Moon. (Maternus, Book IV, Ch. 17, Bram trans., p. 136) And Fortune signifies all things about the body and actions throughout life. It becomes indicative of acquisition, reputation, and privilege. (Paulus, Ch. 23, Greenbaum trans., p. 42) Manilius and Lots from Fortune Manilius assigned a topic to every place relative to Fortune. Though these places are called lots by Manilius and have meanings unique to him. The meanings assigned to the places relative to Fortune in Manilius are given in Book III of the Astronomicon. I briefly summarize the significations below. Fortune * home and property 2nd from Fortune * warfare 3rd from Fortune * business, friends and associates 4th from Fortune * relationship with the law and politics 5th from Fortune * marriage 6th from Fortune * financial resources and stability 7th from Fortune * grim danger 8th from Fortune * social status and fame 9th from Fortune * children and parenting 10th from Fortune * character, tradition, and custom 11th from Fortune * strength and health (of paramount importance) 12th from Fortune * the fruit of our labors Best to you, Ouranos Blessings! Quote Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:53 pm
3 by james_m mihalerm i like the response ouranos gave you.. the idea of any planet being in an angle is considered positive in that it has more of an ability to express itself... in an angle using the pof would support this, if you think the pof is important.. obviously in the past astrologers from hellenistic period did! mostly what i look at is the ruler of the pof and where it is located in relation to the pof.. in your example that would be mercury.. what is its position to the pof in terms of pof houses? from the literature i read on hellenistic astrology, that was what i seemed to recall being most emphasized... and, if the ruler of the pof is found in the 10th of the pof - that was always considered a positive.. maybe some hellenistic or pof expert cam chime in on this.. i would be curious... although i include the part of fortune in charts i look at, i mostly see it as a reflection of the sun-moon relationship thrown off the ascendant axis... it resonate with the moon phase often times - in diurnal charts, but in nocturnal charts the phase is expressed differently... now, i use a particular formula for pof and i think there are 3 to choose from... the one i use is pof = asc+( moon-sun) diurnal pof = asc + ( sun-moon) nocturnal Quote Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:09 pm