Astrological Predictions-Biden vs Trump 2024 1 by Mark Due to lack of character space on Skyscript I have now had to split the US Presidential Election 2024 prediction list into two threads. I have retained the ongoing thread for astrological predictions on the current election campaign featuring Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump. The link is here: viewtopic.php?t=12458 However, I have created this separate thread to still retain astrological predictions which examined Joe Biden vs Donald Trump. With the withdrawal of Biden this is largely of historical interest now. However, I think this list is still worth retained to permit astrologers to study astrological techniques involved This list isn't complete as I have spotted a few predictions I missed from this period. When I get some time I will make some additions here. However, at present my main focus is keeping up with Presidential Election for Harris vs Trump. Joe Biden winner 7 Name: SJ Anderson Location: USA Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Western Traditional Date of prediction: 13th of June 2023 Core Charts used: Using placement of Saturn by sign. No charts required. Techniques used: This astrologer utilises a non-natal technique. He examines the Saturn cycle and its placement by zodiac sign. It is noted that the only prior Presidential elections with Saturn in Pisces were in 1876, 1901 and 1940 and in each instance the incumbent party stayed in office. The astrologer also points out that the historical precedent is that the party elected before a Saturn in Pisces ingress remains in power for the remainder of Saturn residing in that sign. Note: This is the earliest prediction I have found for the 2024 Presidential election. At the time this prediction was issued the candidates for the Democratic and Republican parties were not yet determined. However, this astrologer points out natal data for the Presidential candidates is often unclear , inaccurate or incorrectly reported deliberately by politicians anyway. This proposed methodology avoids the need for specific natal data as the focus relies exclusively on a non-natal technique looking at a planetary cycle by sign. As a consequence this prediction does not necessarily predict a Biden win. It would be equally valid if Biden stepped down and was replaced by Kamala Harris. It will be interesting to compare the outcome of this prediction to the so called Moon dispositor method listed below which in contrast indicates a Republican winner in 2024 based on the final Moon dispositor between Jupiter and Saturn in the inauguration chart of 2025. Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo8f7h6PCZg Name: Narasimha Rao Location: India Zodiac: Sidereal (Lahiri) Tradition: Jyotish/Vedic Date of prediction: 13th of August 2023 Core Charts used: Natal charts Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Varga or divisional charts derived from rasi chart. Techniques used: Transits, Ashtottari dasha, Vimshottari dashas to both candidates natal charts. Vargas: Dasamasa or D10 chart is also called as karmamsa or Swargamsa. Astrologer also discusses ''annual chart'' but not clear what technique he is referring to in video. The D10 chart in Jyotish/Vedic indicates the career, power, position, name and fame, social status, and success. The D10 chart is an extension of the 10th house of the birth chart. Unusually, this astrologer gives more focus to the Ashtottari dasha rather than the commonly used Vimshottari dashas. Note: The astrologer is very emphatic that Trump will not be re-elected in 2025 as he assesses Biden's chart as much stronger. However, because of the astrological instability in 2024 and possibility Biden himself may not be the candidate in 2025 he will issue a later update closer to the election. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltctqJ95uK0 (13th of August 2023) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRFwA724EUs (9th of April 2024) Name: Adrian Ross Duncan Location: Denmark (Nb: astrologer is British) Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Western Modern Date Prediction Issued: 17th November 2023 Core charts used: Natal charts of Joe Biden, Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. Election day chart (time for 7am) as a contest chart. Chart for Republican party (1854). Techniques used: Transits and secondary progressions. Link: https://www.astrowow.com/blog/the-2024- ... 3pVuWcfg7Z Name: Wei Wei Location: Tawain Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Western Traditional Date of Prediction: 6th of February 2024 Core charts used: Ingress charts, solar and lunar eclipse charts, natal charts for Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Techniques: This astrologer sets out her methodology as follows: ''My approach is quite simple: MC represents the ruling party or government, while IC symbolizes the opposition or challenger. Additionally, the 11th house signifies the parliament. (I haven't yet figured out how to distinguish between the Senate and the House of Representatives.)'' This astrologer examines the MC in a series of charts: The 4 annual ingress charts, solar eclipse chart of April 2024, lunar eclipse. She then goes on to examine the MC of each candidates charts using a variety of predictive tools. In particular annual and monthly profections, solar returns , primary directions, and solar arcs. Link: viewtopic.php?t=12016&start=12 Name: Peggy Kay Location: USA Zodiac: Sidereal Fagan-Allan Tradition: Western Siderealist Date of Prediction: 16th March 2024 Core Charts used.: Natal charts of Donald Trump. Joe Biden chart is displayed with transits. Election day chart timed for 9pm Techniques: Transits Note: The written analysis seems to focus exclusively on the chart transits of Donald Trump. Link: https://www.facebook.com/pkayconsulting ... aqr9fQotyl Name: Belinda Lai Location: Hong Kong, China Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Western Modern Date of Prediction: 8th of May 2024 Core Charts used: Administration aka Inauguration charts for Joe Biden (2021) and Donald Trump (2017). Inauguration chart for 2025. Techniques: Transits and solar arcs. Planetary cycles. Link: https://www.astropastures.com/single-po ... zfrb9viqLC Name: Alexey Borealis Location: Russia Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Western Traditional (Morinus) Date of Prediction: 02 July 2024 Core charts: Natal chart of Donald Trump Techniques: Traditional delineation of natal chart and its potential. Primary directions to natal chart. Note: This astrologer only considers the chart of Donald Trump. He does not discuss the chart of Joe Biden. He is using Regiomontanus houses which unlike Placidus and Whole sign place his Venus/Saturn conjunction in the 11th house in Cancer rather the 12th. This makes the Sun the intercepted ruler of the 1st and 12th house in Regiomontanus houses. Links: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6sDNC-3dIs Donald Trump winner 9 Name: Eric Meece Location: USA Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Modern Western Date of Prediction: Based on his system of scoring numerous aspectual connections to candidates natal charts this astrologer stated in 2020 before r Kamala Harris was selected as Vice President ''If Kamala is chosen as VP. That is unfortunate, and if ever nominated for president, she will lose'. Kamala's Saturn Return affected her 2020 run for president, but won't affect her run for vice president in 2020. This astrologer scores Kamala Harris the lowest of all the Democratic candidates that ran for President in 2020. Based on her natal aspects this astrologer rates Harris much lower than Trump in terms of overall score. Core charts: Natal charts and aspects. Influence of Saturn returns on election prospects. Techniques: Aspects to natal charts of candidates providing a chart scoring system. Links: https://philosopherswheel.com/president ... U4jvOKu0aA Name: Cam White Location: USA Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Modern Western Date of Prediction: 21.09.2023 Core charts: Natal charts of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom and Donald Trump. Eclipse charts Techniques:: Transits, eclipses, zodiacal releasing Notes: This astrologer predicted Joe Biden would be replaced by Kamala Harris following the April 2024 North American eclipse. He delineates that Donald Trump will be the likely winner of the 2024 election ( he considered Kamala Harris as the likely President prior to November 2023 in his video in September 2023) but that that due to a disputed election Trump may not become President. In other posts he has suggested the possibility of a ''contingent election'' where neither candidates achieves 270 Electoral College Votes. This would then require votes in Congress (House on POTUS, Senate on Vice-President) on who the POTUS and Vice President should be. Link: 21 September 2023: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h1f6qe4gEE Name: Kenneth Bowser Location: USA Zodiac: Sidereal (Fagan-Allan) Tradition: Western Siderealist Date of Prediction: You Tube link 3rd January 2024. In private communication to me Kenneth Bowser states: ''I gave a webinar on November 12, 2023 sponsored by NCGR in which I unequivocally, but with deep regret, declared my opinion that the symbolism vis-vis Biden versus Trump clearly favors Trump'' Core charts used: Natal charts of Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Chart for USA 4th July 1776 12.16pm LMT (Hazelrigg chart) , chart for inauguration of George Washington as 1st President (POTUS chart) Using 12. 45 LAT Techniques: Transits, annual and quarter solar returns, lunar returns, mundane aspects, primary directions, fixed stars, US sidereal Pluto return Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYv-w8Rw6Ag Name: Oner Doser Location: Turkey Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Western Traditional Date of Prediction: 18th January 2024 Core Charts used: Aries & Libra ingress charts. Solar Eclipse charts for April and October 2024, USA Sibly chart, New York Stock Exchange chart, Election day chart, Inauguration chart, natal charts of Joe Biden, Donald Trump and Kamala Crisis. Techniques: Transits -to nativities by eclipse charts, Election day and Inauguration. Profections, Firdaria for nativities. Profections for US chart. time lord system. for Eclipse charts, Elec as transits for candidates. Note: This astrologer notes that he thinks a female will be prominent in the election due to the placement of the Moon in the Aries ingress chart and Venus in the October solar eclipse. Using the US Sibly chart he also notes the USA is in an 8th house profectional year ruled by the Sibly Moon. He thinks the Aries ingress indicates illness or possible retirement from race for Biden (Sun in the 6th). Overall, while acknowledging difficulties both candidates have for their time lords (profection and Firdaria), he thinks the election chart and inauguration make a Trump victory more probable in a straight up contest between Biden and Trump. However, he notes Kamala Harris chart indicates more responsibilities and she has good transits, firdaria and profections with a first house profection starting this October. He assesses that if Harris replaces Biden she will have better chance against Trump than Biden. The astrologer also thinks there will be trouble on the markets with the likelyhood of a recession. He compares the New York stock Exchange chart in a bi-wheel with the April Solar Eclipse and notes the activation of the Moon and Mars in that chart. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrwgQORYUTA Name: Theodore White Location: USA Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Western Modern Date of Prediction(s): 06.02.2024 & Core charts: Natal charts of both candidates, personal transits, secondary progressions, transits to secondary progressions, solar returns, and global planetary cycles such as the Jupiter-Saturn square. . Techniques: Transits and secondary progressions Links: 06 February 2024 https://www.facebook.com/globalastrolog ... cale=en_GB 24 May 2024: https://www.facebook.com/globalastrolog ... cale=en_GB Name: Edith Hathaway Location: USA Zodiac: Sidereal (Lahiri & Nakshatras) Tradition: Jyotish/Vedic Date of Prediction: 22nd March 2024 Core charts used: Natal charts of Joe Biden and Donald Trump, The (Kelleher) US chart which is based on July 4th 1776, Philadelphia, but timed for 6.30pm, Presidential Inauguration chart. Techniques: Transits to natal horoscopes and Nakshatra charts on election day. Natal planetary configurations (yogas). Divisional charts (esp Navamsha). Vimshottari dashas to both candidates natal charts. Like several American Vedic astrologers Edith Hathaway uses the so called called (Kelleher) US chart which is based on July 4th 1776, Philadelphia, but timed for 6.30pm. The recent solar eclipse, transits and dashas to this chart are examined. There is also some limited analysis of the inauguration chart as a stand alone chart. Notes: Aside from predicting a Trump victory this astrologer examines the Federal reserve chart and suggests it is under severe financial stress from May 2024 up to March 2025. The possibility of a financial crisis or fundamental reorganization is posited. Although the astrological analysis is very comprehensive in this prediction this astrologer sees this election very much through the political lens of Trump defeating a globalist agenda. Hence in her final paragraph she concludes: ''Will the American electorate understand the real choices being offered, or will they buy the propaganda? My astrological deliberations lead me to think that the citizens will somehow choose the Nationalist/Populist candidate (Donald Trump) and not Joe Biden, the candidate who is currently delivering the policies of the Globalists, most visibly – the unlimited mass migration.'' Link: https://edithhathaway.com/the-2024-u-s- ... BgSKcLlcAE Name: Helena Woods Location: France (NB astrologer is American) Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Western Traditional/Hellenistic Date of Prediction: 9th of November 2023 (Trump) and 8th of December 2023 (Biden) Core charts: Natal charts of Joe Biden, Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. Techniques: Transits, profections, zodiacal releasing, US solar eclipse 2024. Link: Joe Biden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNr2fNq480U Donald Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_692-APXtA Name: Anonymous Location: Ireland Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: N/A Date of Prediction: 22nd September 2009 Core charts used: Presidential inauguration for 2025. Techniques: A non-natal technique which relies on the Moon dispositor in the Presidential inauguration chart. In this system Jupiter represents the Republican party and Saturn represents the Democratic party. If we follow the dispositor trail of the Moon on inauguration day, this method suggests if it ends with Jupiter, A Republican is inaugurated. If Saturn, a Democrat. This may sound initially counter-intuitive as planetary natural significators. However, these planets were prominent in the founding party charts of the Democrats and Republicans. The system suggests a Republican Trump win in 2024. Note: This is a non-natal method of prediction. It was first proposed in a forum post on Skyscript in 2009. It has proven successful in indicating the winner in the last four Presidential elections ie 2008, 2012, 2016 & 2020. . Link: viewtopic.php?t=4748 Name: Mohnish Suri aka AstralAstrologer.com Location: India Zodiac: Sidereal (Lahiri) Tradition: Jyotish/Vedic Date of Prediction: 9th November 2023 (Trump). 11th November 2023 (Biden), Core Charts: Natal charts of Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Following the example of several American Vedic astrologers this astrologer uses the so called called (Kelleher) US chart which is based on July 4th 1776, Philadelphia, but timed for 6.30pm. Techniques: Transits to natal horoscopes of Biden and Trump. Natal planetary configurations (yogas) and transits. Vimshottari dashas to both candidates natal charts. Links: Donald Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnuHndGos4o (9th November 2023) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPW0TzR2Lhc (6th May 2024) Joe Biden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D5Yi78JRsM&t=0s (11th November 2023) Neither Biden or Trump Become President 3 Name: Steve Judd Location: United Kingdom Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Western Modern Date of Prediction: 9th May 2024 Core charts used: Natal charts of Joe Biden and Donald Trump. USA Sibly chart Techniques: Transits to Biden and Trump's chart. Transits to USA Sibly chart. Note: The astrologer mentions the Mars-Uranus conjunction taking place on July 15th 2024 coinciding with the start of the Republican party National Convention. He suggests this will lead to ''fireworks'' and unpredictable outcome. He also highlights the start of the Democratic party National Convention on the 19th of August 2024 which coincides with the ''the most difficult full Moon on the year'' with Moon at 27 Aquarius (Sibly degree) and Sun at 27 Leo squared by Uranus at 26 Taurus. He suggests both planetary alignments will lead to political ''fireworks and a great deal of unpredictability into the circumstances of those meetings''. He also highlights the Mars-Pluto opposition occurring the day before the Presidential election which indicates ''events which attempt to derail the election''. ''There is an element of subversiveness behind the scenes, underhand behaviour with Mars-Pluto which can get downright nasty''. Things are not going to go according to plan. The astrologer states the astrology says to him neither candidate will become President although he accepts this seems politically implausible at this point. He offers the caveat that if either candidate wins neither will see their term of office out. He also suggests the election may need to be delayed a week or two. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo4JNdetmpE Name: Aland Annand Location: Canada Zodiac: Sidereal (Lahiri) Tradition: Jyotish/Vedic Date of Prediction: 18th January 2024 Core Charts: Techniques: Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrwgQORYUTA[/size] Name: Cam White Location: USA Zodiac: Tropical Tradition: Western Modern Date of Prediction: 06.03.2024 Core Charts: Natal charts, eclipses, Jupiter-Saturn cycle Techniques: Transits, eclipses Note: Like many astrologers this one thinks the 2024 election will be deeply controversial and legally disputed . This astrologer is a leading proponent of the possibility the 2024 Presidential could lead to a ''contingent election'' meaning neither candidate gets to 270 Electoral College seats. In that event the Congress would vote on who should be President and and Vice President. Its theoretically possible in this scenario the candidate of one party could be voted in as President while the Vice President could be selected from the other major party. He predicted back in September 2023 that Joe Biden was not go on to be incumbent President at the time of the election and would be replaced y Kamala Harris. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9HOkDVj5Pg As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly Quote Sat Sep 07, 2024 12:37 pm