Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 1 by janegca This is a rocket launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 at 8:30 am CDT from Corn Ranch, Texas owned by Jeff Bezo's Blue Origin space company. The flight is notable as the crew and all the passengers will be women, one of whom (Lauren Sanchez) is Bezo's fiancee. Blue-Origin-Rocket-Launch.png Viewed 10286 times 65.36 KiB An exalted Venus (women) rules the Asc and is in the 11th conjunct a peregrine Saturn that is with a fallen Mercury that is conjunct Neptune (indicating poor reasoning); Saturn is also being harmed by a separating trine from a fallen Mars (accidents). Venus turned SD on April 12th (being stubborn over a prior poor decision?). The Moon (women) is in her Fall in Scorpio in the 6th (crew?) conjunct the 7th (conflict) separating from a square of Pluto in the 10th (command from company executive that is connected with the fuzzy Mercury/Neptune thinking?) applying to a trine of her dispositor (Mars); both planets strongly debilitated connected with bad houses. This is weird, Mars is in his Fall on the IC partile trine Mercury but the aspect has not, and will not, perfect; even though the two are minutes apart, Mercury is always slightly ahead of Mars. Mars is in the 3rd (travel) disposited by the Moon who is in the 4th from the 3rd...end of travel? Mars rules the 12th and is in the 3rd connected to the 4th - an accident connected with travel? And Uranus is in the 1st sextile both Mars and Mercury, so a minor Grand Trine but one that is separating. Disrupted travel or a sudden accident in the making? or possibly just the uniqueness of the situation (1st American all woman space flight?). Jupiter rules the 8th and is in the 2nd square Mercury, in MR by domicile with Mercury just out of Jupiter's light. Given the debilitated states of the Moon, Mars, Mercury and their connections with bad houses (6th, 4th, 12th) it difficult to see this chart as favourable for a launch into space; hoping the non-perfected Mercury-Mars trine is indicating an aborted launch due to a technical problem that is discovered just before lift-off. ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:19 pm
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 2 by Georgius Despite not agreeing with your delineation in total: This does not look good! Definitely no astrologically elected time for lift off. Last edited by Georgius on Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:53 pm, edited 1 time in total. Quote Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:14 pm
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 3 by janegca Hi Georgius, that was my first thought too, no astrologer would have picked this time! ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:44 pm
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 4 by janegca Well, there's egg on my face. They had an almost perfect launch and return today; so much for thinking Mars on the IC in an incomplete trine with Mercury would cause problems! Is Mars in Fall opposition the MC in Capricorn, where it is Exalted, a symbol of the rocket literally being launched into the heights? Don't know, back to the drawing board. ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:32 pm
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 5 by Ouranos As I looked up at the Blue Origin Launch, I have found some answers but I am left with some questions. Uranian astrology says that travelling is ME/SA (parting SA to travel ME) Here is what the Rulebook says MO = ME/SA Female persons taking leave, driving fast, travel companions. NN indicates a group of women, preparations for travel. VE = ME/SA New friends one separates from, obviously after the flight. AS = ME/SA To take leave, to depart, to move. Serious conversations with others. Another element is Neptune at the Aries Point as Neptune rules flying objects and airplanes. It says that if NE = ME/SA it is a travel without return. The midpoint is 3 degrees away from Neptune. The orb is too wide. Now, when you read this, the question I am trying to solve is if the midpoint is the question (here the travel), how do you answer it, like if the launching will succeed or not. Neptune is a potential answer but not satisfying enough for me. What are the aspects you would look in traditional astrology to answer that? Is it the MO last aspect in Scorpio conjunct Fortuna in a Grand Trine with Mars and ME/SA that made it succeed. Or something else? Ouranos Blessings! Attachments Blue Origin Launch.png Viewed 10204 times 130.67 KiB Quote Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:41 am
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 6 by Georgius First: Is the time of the lift-off correct? Second: We do not know in detail what happened. As a privat enterprise in the USA Blue Origin tries to have good prestige. One cannot expect to hear about non-obvious problems if the company is not forced to tell. Anyway all went out well in the end. So we have to look closer at the chart . I will take a traditional approach. L1, Venus, significator of the event is exhalted and main lady of triplicity located in the 11th house conjunct the North Node which enriches her qualities further. She is dignified very well and in a fortunate house, very nice and strong to act nicely. Venus is also L6: perfect work and perfect workers. She is conjunct a peregrin Saturn, lord of the 9th (long-distance travels amongst others) and L10 (public matters and status). Maybe the population is ambivalent about this flights? Anyway Venus is much stronger and Saturn cannot harm her substantially. The next in this stellium is Mercury located in Pisces too and in the 11th house of the good daimon, friendship and networking. He is very bad being in exile and fall and conjunct the bad fix star Scheat. Yes, Mercuries generell signification is about reasoning among others but in this chart he is lord of the 2nd (resources) and 5th (entertainment, fun et all.). So, how about financies? Jupiter is located in the 2nd house but very debilitated in exile. The lord of the 2nd is also very badly placed: The resources and money are week. Maybe that's the crux of the matter. But there is no real danger now. Glorious Venus helps a lot. There is a trine between Mars and Mercury. Mars is angular at the IC, L7 (partnership et all.) and L12 (limitations et all.) and has dignities as out-of-sect triplicity ruler. So he is no malefic and able to act well. The spontaneity and assertiveness of Mars (partners) helps Mercury (resources). Mars and L3 Moon (communication) are in mutual reception per sign. The moon is angular at the DC, in fall, but participating triplicity ruler i. e. not that bad as it looks at first sight. But may Mars being L7 and L12 show open and hidden enemies to this undertaking especially in the sphere of communicating? The Sun exalted in Aries but in the 12th of the bad daimon (restrictions, hidden enemies) is Lord of the 5th (entertainment). Are there animosities because of these flights just for fun? I think I don’t need the Transaturnians to delineate this chart. These are my thoughts now as I looked more precisely at the chart and the preliminary outcome is known. Quote Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:11 am
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 7 by Ouranos I don't want my response to be taken as a criticism of one system versus another. What I have found is that Uranian astrology is better at 'describing' something as it is 'event-oriented' with the emphasis on the hard aspects. Note that any system of astrology could do that if you blend the nature of the planets. It belongs to astrology. Period. And the interpretation of the midpoints found in the Blue Origin Launch are not my take but the literal words of the Rulebook. Christopher Warnock (renaissanceastrology.com) said that: "But the concept of psychology is anachronistic for medieval/Renaissance astrology. They tended to think in terms of character or manners and had different ways of delineating this. They also did not see every astrological factor as basically positive, instead, they typically arranged their techniques to show a spectrum of positive to neutral to negative, or strong to weak to afflicted." You have a hint of a solution Georgius when you outlined Venus L1 exalted as a predominant factor. The question is always 'Will it be enough to make the launch a success?' over all the other factors. Last weekend, I was invited at a friend's house for a supper with a group of friends. With the Moon in Scorpio. We had a good time but I can't remember the number of times the exchanges started with 'I apologize but...' And I kept thinking about the quote, I think it is Lilly, who said that a planet in fall is calling for an apology. To me, this is psychological astrology but how does it translate to a Mercury in Pisces when you are leaving for a spaceship travel. In this chart, the Moon last aspect before leaving Scorpio is a conjunction to Fortuna to which Ivy Goldstein-Jacobson said that 'Nothing but success will be experienced and there will be no undue expense or loss'(p.84 of Simplified Horary Astrology). As always, everything remains a matter of looking at what predominates to form our judgment. And right now, I am trying to blend Uranian astrology with Horary or Electional readings. There must be a way but I haven't found the angle yet. Ouranos Blessings! Quote Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:14 am
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 8 by Georgius I did not want to criticise either. But as I found this chart for the launch very questionable before, I think I have to look at it again to see what had happened… Concerning this bad Mercury I think not his universal signification but the accidental (L2 and maybe L5) is relevant. Quote Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:30 pm
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 9 by Solsticed Nothing happened, relax Quote Tue Apr 15, 2025 3:15 pm
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 10 by janegca This has been really bothering me, where is the success indicated? Mars in Cancer in opposition to the Capricorn MC, for some reason, got me thinking about the "opening of the doors" weather technique. The technique, as described by Ben Dykes in Astrology of the World Vol I requires an aspect between two planets whose domiciles are in opposition i.e. an aspect between Saturn-Moon or Sun, Jupiter-Mercury, Venus-Mars. He then goes on to say "at certain times, it is as though a door or channel of influence opens up, allowing higher influences to be received and manifested in our lower world". In the chart, Venus (L1) is trine Mars; so, there is an "opening of the doors" or at least there was when the two were exact on April 6th at 25 PI/CA. The Moon is applying by trine first to Venus then by trine to Mars (after opposing Uranus) which is called an "opening of the double doors". So, is it possible these conditions improved the planet's significations, did Mars give an already strong Venus a significant boost? Is it possible the strength of the benefic Venus, who just turned Stationary Direct and is in a partile semi-sextile with an exalted Sun (which acts with the strength of a conjunction in that it is mitigated by their signs being of equal ascension) whom she is rising from, coupled with the trines and 11th was more than enough to provide a good outcome? Also decided to look at the preceding Ingress and Lunation. The Ingress chart Blue-Origin-Ingress.png Viewed 10155 times 65.46 KiB The event Asc/Desc lies across the Ingress MC/IC which is on 0 SC/TA, so critical. Event Mercury is at 28 PI, partile conjunct the Ingress 3rd and event Mars is at 28 CA trine the Ingress 3rd Looking at the Lunation immediately preceding the event: Blue-Origin-Lunation.png Viewed 10155 times 26.75 KiB The event MC/IC is the reverse of the lunation MC/IC while the event Moon at 11 SC is partile trine the lunation MC 11 CA. The Lunation Asc/Desc falls across Libra/Aries, another set of Venus/Mars ruled domiciles with both planet in trine and Mars elevated. In the event chart, the 12th/6th axis is occupied by 0 AR/LI. Both charts appear to support the event timing. ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:19 pm
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 11 by janegca Hi Ouranos, The midpoints are very descriptive of the event, thanks for listing them. Ouranos wrote: Now, when you read this, the question I am trying to solve is if the midpoint is the question (here the travel), how do you answer it, like if the launching will succeed or not. Neptune is a potential answer but not satisfying enough for me. What are the aspects you would look in traditional astrology to answer that? Maybe Neptune is simply descriptive here? Flight is important during the period (critical degree)? I just checked the declinations of Venus and Neptune, they are contra-parallel at 1 N - 1 S. Mars is actually parallel Jupiter, with both at 22 N, perhaps that added some protection? Wonder if the Sun exalted in the 12th is acting beneficially here? Ouranos wrote: Is it the MO last aspect in Scorpio conjunct Fortuna in a Grand Trine with Mars and ME/SA that made it succeed. Or something else? That's another set off trines that could be indicating success, especially as Mars and the Moon are in MR. ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:33 pm
Re: Blue Origin All Female Rocket Launch scheduled for April 14, 2025 12 by janegca Georgius wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:11 am First: Is the time of the lift-off correct? Hi Georgius ... the flight was scheduled for 8:30 am CDT; unfortunately the video I saw was showing a countdown clock rather than the time but none of the written reports indicated a delayed launch. Second: We do not know in detail what happened. As a privat enterprise in the USA Blue Origin tries to have good prestige. One cannot expect to hear about non-obvious problems if the company is not forced to tell. That's true; if there were problems that needed last minute fixes they would be unlikely to publicize them. L1, Venus, significator of the event is exhalted and main lady of triplicity located in the 11th house conjunct the North Node which enriches her qualities further. She is dignified very well and in a fortunate house, very nice and strong to act nicely. Venus is also L6: perfect work and perfect workers. <snipped> I think I don’t need the Transaturnians to delineate this chart. These are my thoughts now as I looked more precisely at the chart and the preliminary outcome is known. Thanks so much for your input. It is always useful to have other eyes on a chart, especially when I've misread it; Venus' strength in the chart may well be the key to final outcome, especially when you draw the 6th house in as you've done. ---------------------------- "I can calculate the motions of celestial bodies, but not the madness of people.” —- Sir Isaac Newton https://archive.org/details/@janegca Quote Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:43 pm