Let’s talk about stocks please!
I was reading a few forums about people using Horary for investing in stocks.
Some used 5th and 2nd, along with analyzing 2/8 aspect.
Some place I read about using 10th and 2nd.
I also read about if 10th ruler is retrograde, then stock is probably overpriced for now.
So few questions:
1. Which houses to look..so confused by different people looking at different houses
2. What is 2-8axis..and what is ruler of 2 is exalted and 8th is in the fall..does it mean likely gain?
- What if both are exalted?
3. What if the ruler of 10 or 11th is exalted but in early degrees…does it mean price will increase more? Or if late it means it has reached peak for now?
Apologies of asking many questions.
Thoughts?

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Let’s talk about stocks please!
I was reading a few forums about people using Horary for investing in stocks.
Some used 5th and 2nd, along with analyzing 2/8 aspect.
Some place I read about using 10th and 2nd.
I also read about if 10th ruler is retrograde, then stock is probably overpriced for now.
So few questions:
1. Which houses to look..so confused by different people looking at different houses
2. What is 2-8axis..and what is ruler of 2 is exalted and 8th is in the fall..does it mean likely gain?
- What if both are exalted?
3. What if the ruler of 10 or 11th is exalted but in early degrees…does it mean price will increase more? Or if late it means it has reached peak for now?

Retrograde movement indicates a reversal of something. It tends to be more volatile and unpredictable. I wouldn't personally buy a stock that has a retro price significator unless I had good reason to believe the price is reversing to a stronger placement. Usually, it indicates a fall in price though, so not a good time to buy. I don't just look at the lord of the 10th but any planets retro in the 10th. Planets in the 10th are co sigs.

1. Horary is never just about one house, is it? I don't know I have ever seen a chart where I could look at one planet and that answers my question. You always look at the ascendant lord/house for the strength of the person around the situation, the Moon as a primary indicator of what's about to happen (what it is separating from and applying to, etc.), here the stock itself (I use 5th), you would also look at the house of profit (2nd) and could look at the condition of the sellers (7th) with the ascendant lord to see if there are eager sellers. If you are selling then the 7th would be a buyer in your horary (if using election charts you would use the correct house placements for sellers versus buyers). With stocks, you do need to have sellers/buyers, and in cases where stocks don't move quickly, this might be more relevant (again, I stayed away from these type of stocks because they aren't recommended by most traders). Again, 10th is pretty significant given you want to buy low and sell high.

2. 2nd is your profit from the venture, 8th is the profit of the seller or buyer. In some cases, it can be a win-win situation in stocks, so I honestly wouldn't look at this relationship. Sometimes someone sells you a stock and they make a profit and you make a profit. I would care more about the 2nd and not worry about what they get out of it since you will never know that anyway (you don't know where they bought the stock at and what profit they are making or not).

3. Early degrees tend to suggest a new situation that has already begun. I would say you likely missed the best time to buy and the price is already high. If it's within the first 5 degrees of the sign, you might still be able to get in on the upward trend but it's not going to be as good of a profit as buying before it moved into that sign. If at a later degree, it would depend on the sign it is about to move into. For example, Saturn moving from house dignity of Capricorn to house dignity of Aquarius is still a sign where it performs well but Aquarius has additional dignity of triplicity, so would likely show some continued slight gain.


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I used horary for stocks for about a year with some extra money I had and made a good profit. I never used it for longterm stocks, just for stocks I would keep for a profit and then sell. I found that come taxes time that it was a lot of work to complete my taxes and money I owed, so I didn't feel that the amount of work I put into it was necessarily worth it. Had I used large sums of money to play with, I would have made a much larger profit, but I didn't want to risk it.

I looked at the lord of the 5th as the quality of the stock overall, along with the Moon. When purchasing, I wanted to see the Moon leaving a malefic and applying to a benefic (one of the best indicators of profit, in my experience).. The 10th house and lord I used as the price, which was often one of the most important areas for me to look at. Obviously, if the 2nd house/lord is doing well or the ascendant lord, this can also be a good omen, but I didn't tend to trust that unless I also saw that the price was matching. I would favor a chart where the stock itself was strong but the price was low. If the 10th lord was retro or a retro planet was in the 10th, the stock had a reversal coming. Sometimes this was not a price fall. For example, if a stock had a low price currently, it might reverse to a higher price (usually temporarily) if moving into a sign where it was more dignified. (It could also indicate a price split) However, this did not always mean longterm and I always asked specifically about short-term buys/sells. I would ask both about when to buy but sometimes then when to sell, but usually used my best judgment on when to sell. I found horary very accurate on when to buy.

Keep in mind that I also just kept up with the stock market as a whole everyday and knew if stocks were moving or more volatile on a given day or not, which is not the safest time to buy and a lot of very experienced traders also avoid those days. I was up early before the stock market opened everyday. I didn't buy super volatile stocks and tended to use ETFs the most and other stocks that had longterm upward trends that were more predictable in general.

There are astrologers who use astrology for speculation in order to make their income and there is one I know who has a YouTube who shares his techniques. He uses his own natal implications for the short time period he chooses (he mostly goes to casinos) but he has indications of being good at risky ventures in his natal (I do as well). He's @thegamblingastrologer on YouTube and he's open to any questions.