Techniques of Death? 1 by Ariondys 22jul1981 11:00UT 91w09, 30n27 rected for ~10:53:30UT (AS=23ca45) Death by heart attack(13jun2013 3:00UT) Ruler 1(MO) and Ruler 6(JU) in opposition (t-squared by MA) Ruler 6 conjunct SA uncertain thoughts: MO, MA = mutual reception MA, JU = MA in cancer(JU exalts in cancer) profected to the 8th, (don't know how to profect either), and maybe month profected to the 6th? What else can we do to forsee this? what is the hyleg and alcocoden, and what are those things more exactly? Quote Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:27 pm
Re: Techniques of Death? 2 by Pisces_girl Ariondys wrote: What is the hyleg and alcocoden, and what are those things more exactly? This is a nocturnal nativity and the Moon is in the 9th house (Hyleg house), then the Moon is Hyleg. Since Mars has the most dignity in the place of the Moon (domicile+face), then Mars would be the Alcocoden. Hope this helps. Pisces One in many births, a single ocean holder of all streams of movement, sees our hearts. Quote Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:09 pm
3 by Ariondys so the Hyleg(capitals?) is sort of 'the ruler' of the chart, like the ruler of the 1st, but with if/and/or/and buts attached to it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyleg with such step by steps that I never seem to grasp the why of it. (notwithstanding different experts, don' torture me yet) if I read this: http://www.bernadettebrady.com/Pdfs/Hyleg.pdf The Hyleg and Alcoccoden will I come to the proper understanding? ps: source with chart. http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?num=1372903602 now, obviously if you look there, you see I have modern-astology-ed it. With a hit of sepharial genius for the 6th cusp.. but I'd like to see this with traditional, perhap where the chart is still vague even, unrectified perhaps, but with rulers and houses and such that still remain the same regardless of accuracy. Quote Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:36 pm
4 by nahid.fs Hi After rotating my chart i began from the 8th house Aq. then i found it's ruler at libra, and i considered Venus the reason of death Venus is at lion, she is eastern (asc.) , at afire sign and peregrine, all those situation are bad, beside her house (libra) is afflicted by two planets Jupier the killer (lord of 8th) and Saturn the disease's lord (6th) an , beside he has the nature of death So, Venus is malefic , Sun the lord of the death's asc. (lion), she is in the 5 killer degrees of Ptolemy. Lion and Sun represents the heart, and because both of them afflicted, then the herat is aflicted And the significater of the 8th (piece) is Venus, and she is aflicted as mentioned So, death was by heart attack The firdaria are Jupiter and Saturn This assure the up interpretation ============================= In Solar return chart the asc. is sco. naturally the house of death, and his lord Mars is at 8th house, (gimini), and the lord of gimini Mercury conjuncts Venus of the origion (the killer), and Venus in solar return chart in combustion at cancer the house, naturally, the place of death (under the ground ) The lord of 5th house in solarity Jupiter is at 7th and his lord Venus in combustion, that means the heart in combustion But what is about Hyleg and Alcocoden ? Here is the problem, there's no experience, but try best Sun is at the 12th house, so she is not hyleg Then we look to the Moon, he is at the 9th, so he is the Hyleg, because there's an aspect with him from dignities Then, what is the Alcocoden ? The dignities of the Hyleg are : Mars(house 5 p. and face 1 p.=6 p), Sun (exaltation 4 p.) , Jupiter (trip.3 p. and term 2 p=5 p) Mars is the Alcocoden Now, how old he was ? We have to increase the positive plants to him, and decrease the negatives (the aspects) And because the alcocoden is malefic in the 12th we use the lesser years Mars + Mercury - Saturn - Jupiter - Moon = 15 + 20 - 30 - 12 - 25 = 32 year that was his old Quote Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:56 pm
5 by nahid.fs This is the profection chart of the death The asc. of death profected the pcs. the lord it is Jupiter which ended (profected) to gimini conjuncting Saturn The 6th (sagi.) profected to leon (heart) and it's lord (Sun) to the ascendent (pcs)to combust the Moon of the origion Then pcs. was the 12th in origion (end, death) especially because it's lord (jupiter) conjuncts the planet of death naturally (Saturn) Here, became at hands lot of things reffer to death : 8th (origion) + 12th (profection) and the lord of them (jup) + Saturn the lord of 12th which in it Mras + Mercury After a good connection between all those significations , we see the death has happened Quote Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:08 am